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Rolex: I do not mean to offend or doubt you here but I don't recall rolex daytonas and subs ever getting 25-30% off MSRP.

Yes, market has shifted in 10 year, the current trend is clearly still steel sports models. But Rolex, AP, Patek are not the only brands with these steel sports offerings, JLC has them, VC has always had them, now lange also has 1. But those who have clear demand are those belonging to the independe
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By: masy7
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Patek Philippe: Watches maybe passion to us, but to the sales and ADs, watches are their livelihood.

I have been supporting the same few ADs throughout my few years of collecting and I have no problem whatsoever getting my hands on most of the coveted pieces at retail. There is no under table dealing or secret & quick way to build a rapport with these people except to show them support at times
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By: masy7
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A. Lange & Söhne: I agree with you ZSHSZ

I still do own 5-6 Langes, one from each family, but I have let go of a couple along the way, including the OG PLM tourbillon. I just do not think Lange is as good as everyone, especially some bloggers made them out to be. They are not as accurate, quality control is not perfect either. Once receive
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By: masy7
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Patek Philippe: Way more than 150 pieces

I do not agree, I think perhaps to produce a black enamel dial would take 1-2 weeks max per dial per artisan. I reckon 5370's true total output to be around 1000 pieces. The US alone receives upwards of 100-200 spilt second grande comps a year (they are checked and inspected by Henri Stern agency be
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By: masy7
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A. Lange & Söhne: Really? Patek Philippe is arguable the best, and they pretty much only run sales through ADs worldwide.

Although most popular sports and grand complication models do not need discounts to sell, you would have found that almost all other models could have been purchased from AD directly with slight discount even during the height of the nautilus hype. I do not know where the Lange executive got the ide
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By: masy7
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A. Lange & Söhne: Well worth the premium over the regular production piece if you ask me

Like all other GL1 lumen moonphase owner, I am still deeply in love with mine despite having owned it since late 2016. The dial is mesmerising both under natural lighting and without any lighting. Best lumen together with the zeitwerk phantom. Are you getting an offer for a used piece or new piece?
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By: masy7
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Patek Philippe: Here you go

Pardon the bad photo, hard to get 3 watches in one shot. But case in point, on the 5711 and 5170, the tiffany stamps make the dial more balanced. But in my opinion, the tiffany stamp on the 5164 makes it abit too crowded on top. Best, masy
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By: masy7
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Patek Philippe: If we set aside the crazy prices on Tiffany patek sports

I like the tiffany and co stamped above 6 oclock for 5711, I find that it balances the emptiness of the bottom dial.
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By: masy7
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A. Lange & Söhne: Wow!

Amazing 1815 collection, my favorite is the honey gold until I saw that last handwerkskunst alike dial. Which edition is that? I have never seen it before, the only 1815 with handwerkskunst was the 1815 tourbillon.
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By: masy7
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Patek Philippe: From an early-mid 20 watch enthusiast

Dear all, I have been mostly a lurker on this forum, one that religiously checks in everyday for new posts. I am indefinitely grateful for the exposure this forum has given me and taught me about all types of watches. From Bill for the vintage rolexes to amanico for jlc to foreversta for the indepen
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By: masy7
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