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Was referring to that fact that even though I own the Calendrier already, i know I am going to want the Perpetual too... and I don't like that feeling. Not with another eight months until bonus time...if there is one this year.

Can't wait to see Journe's take on the perpetual calendar movement. Painful for us Calendrier owners I suppose, but hopefully it will be a unique and innovative take on it. Would be great if it wasn't anything like the Calendrier, aesthetically.

Not sure what rate you are using to make 237,500 HKD=24,400 USD. Off by about 6k USD. Perhaps you were looking at the price of the Calendrier

...The Calendrier and the Lune, while different, do have a similar offset dial which give them a similar look. The CS is unique in that respect as the dial is centered. As you already have an Octa, adding the CS would give you a brilliant, simple piece in the Souverain collection, it is manual wind

not at 10, but yes, as time passes from the time of winding it will move towards 40. This is the case on all watches in the Souverain collection, they will be fully wound at zero. FPJ's Octa collection will be fully wound at 120 and work backwards to Zero as time passes. I believe the distinction co