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Dear Emmanuel, thank you for expressing in detail all your well reasoned points. Yes, Patek has definitely wanted not to be solely defined by Nautilus.

And while I love Nautilus, when I think of what defines Patek and the great watches it has made and continues to make, the watches that I think of are non sport models including: 1518 and its progeny, MRs, WTs, rare handcrafts, PCs, chronos, ACs and Calat
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By: patekova
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gary_g
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Patek Philippe Double-Signed Watches

In his comment to my thread dedicated to the Patek Philippe/Somazzi partnership , our dear Gordon aka GLau asked me how many retailers were able to have their signature on some Patek Philippe watches . Here's my answer : A / I have identified 58 retailers
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By: quattro
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quattro
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Patek 1518 - Some great Alternating thinking from amanico and Miranda from some 9 year old thread.

Just a couple: amanico: Patek Chronograph 5370, 130, 1463. The epitome of fine chronographs? Miranda: Patek Philippe: the lure of the steel complication
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By: AndCavanaugh
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Bill
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Phillips is auctioning a 1518 in steel that they sold 9 years ago (for all the money in the world)

It’s the same wristwatch, 863'193, that set a record in 2016, and the first steel 1518 - somewhat important to Patek history as it inspired later steel comps (like the 5004). While its a very nice watch in its own right the focus here is more economic tha
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By: AndCavanaugh
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Bill
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Handling such a watch must be quite an experience!

Thanks for sharing. Here are some other Grand Complication in steel. Best, Emmanuel Ref. 1436 Split Seconds Chronograph credit: monochrome Ref. 1518 pcc credit: monaco legends Ref.5004, spit seconds pcc credit: haute time
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By: mahesh
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geross
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I prefer the 5270 to the 5970....

.....as the subdials aren't as centrally positioned due to the larger and perfectly proportioned movement. I also had the 3970 in my collection and find it stunningly beautiful. Unfortunately, its proportions on the wrist never completely convinced me. I'
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By: quattro
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COUNT DE MONET
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Patek Philippe ref. 5270J-001

A few weeks ago, I've been able to try on this ref. 5270J-001 and was amazed at how refined it looks and how well it sits on the wrist , even on a smaller wrist like mine. I had in mind the way this reference has been criticised for its larger case ( 41 x
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By: quattro
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COUNT DE MONET
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Emmanuel, in a literal sense I think your original statement about 1518 IS correct. More people are looking to buy 3970/5970.

That said I think the 1518 is a much more important watch historically and extremely rare to find especially in mint condition. I have seen many. My impression is that only a relatively small percentage are in unpolished mint condition. I very much look f
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By: quattro
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quattro
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Thank you for correcting my statement

with such eloquent numbers. Putting the 1518 together with the 5270 was a bad idea indeed and I will modify my statement. As for the 5270, I couldn’t agree more with you and will post about my recent brief hands on experience with it tomorrow: when I trie
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By: quattro
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quattro
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Emmanuel, I think perhaps you may be not giving the 1518 its rightful due in referring to it being a little less sought after than 2499, 3970 and 5970..

I guess it also depends on how you define “less sought after” and who might be seeking it. There are certainly more collectors of modern Pateks than vintage but the demand among big time vintage Patek collectors for 1518 is intense and this can easily be
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By: quattro
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quattro
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