My Grand Seiko, 18 months later

Jun 27, 2009,03:32 AM
 

18 months ago, thanks to a good friend who went to Tokyo, I acquired the Grand Seiko SBGM003. I wrote a review three or four months after the acquisition, you can read the review here . In fact, since then I know 8 others who have bought this exact Grand Seiko. 

 

 

 

 

A year and a half later, including a recent short trip to Tokyo, I am even more convinced that this watch, and the Grand Seiko line in general, is a tremendous piece of horology.

 

Why?

 

The finish and quality of the external components – hands, dial and case – is excruciatingly high. I have never, and I mean never, even after more than a decade of interest in watches, seen another watch with a dial and case of this standard at this price point. In fact, I will venture so far as to say I have never seen components of this quality in a watch of double or triple the price point.

 


 

 

 

 

Inside each Grand Seiko lies a movement that is finished largely mechanically, though assembled by hand, without the hand-finished beauty found in European watchmaking. Edges of bridges are razor sharp and the striping (Cotes de Tokyo?) appear devoid of the human touch. The care lavished on the external parts of the watch is by no means absent in the movement – each movement is regulated by hand and accuracy of Grand Seiko, at least based on anecdotal evidence, is superb – it just manifests itself differently. This is a result of a different philosophy, though I have to admit, I have no clear idea of the exact philosophy since obtaining information from Seiko directly, without losing the details in translation, is difficult.

 

A few months ago during a dinner to premier a great and good new watch from Switzerland, I showed my Grand Seiko to a gentleman who was involved in developing that great and good new watch. He is a manufacturing specialist armed experience in a very prominent Swiss watchmaker, so not only did he have knowledge of watchmaking but significant knowledge of production techniques and equipment as well.

 

The gentleman was amazed by my Grand Seiko, especially after I revealed the retail price. And he was just being polite, because he did not react with much interest to the plethora of expensive (Swiss and one or two German) watches on the wrists of the other guests. The quality of the dial and hands amazed him, especially the perfect lacquer finish of the dial which he obsessed over. He remarked that the manufacturing process for the dial most likely consisted of lacquering the brass base before polishing it to achieve the remarkable smooth finish. That conclusion was drawn from looking at the hole in the dial for hands; I have to admit, try as I might, I could not quite see what he was referring to.

 

The only visible shortcoming of the watch, in his opinion, was the case which is polished in its entirety. Given the evident skill in case manufacture and polishing, he felt Seiko should have given the case some contrasting finishing, for example brushed as well as polished areas. The intangible drawback of Grand Seiko he raised was the staid design, something few would dispute.

 

Last year I discovered an interesting fact about Grand Seiko. In 2008 Seiko raised the list price of Grand Seiko watches by 10%, the first increase in retail price since 1998. That means the first Grand Seiko model to be reintroduced back in 1998 had the same list price for a decade.

 

Extraordinary.

 

- SJX

 


 

This message has been edited by SJX on 2009-06-27 03:41:16 This message has been edited by SJX on 2009-06-27 03:41:30


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Absolutely beautiful......

 
 By: CL : June 27th, 2009-05:25
I find it very desirable too. Love it *CL

Extraordinary indeed, SJX!

 
 By: marcelo : June 27th, 2009-05:55
I love this watch! Congratulations and thanks for the nice story!!! Marcelo

Unfortunately you shouldn’t get on of these if you live in Brazil.

 
 By: marcelo : June 27th, 2009-08:21
Since it seems you have to send it to Japan to be serviced, and knowing Brazilian customs like I do, it’s probable that they would charge the owner for import taxes when it comes back. Marcelo

thanks SJX!

 
 By: ei8htohms : June 27th, 2009-06:59
They're really pretty hard to beat. I still love mine and have to get around to overhauling it some day. I'll take some pictures of course when I do. _john

Thank you, SJX!

 
 By: KIH : June 27th, 2009-08:25
I am planning to visit Tokyo late next month to early August. I will seek that model/ piece - would you mind PM me as for whereabout I should look around? It's been too long that I will not be so familiar with watch shopping geography.

thanks SJX. i bought the 009 black dial. build quality superb.

 
 By: G99 : June 27th, 2009-14:00
however, i found that the black dial didnt show the watch off to its best. i've since sold it on with a view to getting a handwind at some stage. i've got 2 handwind vintage GS's and just like the feel of the winding. the whole range is fabulous and if as... 

See your PM Ken. [nt]

 
 By: SJX : June 27th, 2009-21:18
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amazing .!

 
 By: Tony A.H : June 27th, 2009-14:06
great report.. and a great looking watch. Tony

I really do have to get myself one of these (GS) watches.

 
 By: 219 : June 27th, 2009-14:59
It has been on my mind for some time. Great watch and congrats. Any news on the GS Divers Watch Bernard alluded to? Cheers Andrew H

The Grand Seiko diver's watches

 
 By: SJX : June 27th, 2009-21:17
are available in steel or titanium. Both are Spring Drive with power reserve. SBGA029 in steel: http://www.seiko-watch.co.jp/gs/collection/detail.html?pid=SBGA029 SBGA031 in titanium: http://www.seiko-watch.co.jp/gs/collection/detail.html?pid=SBGA031 I pl...  

NICE! Like the one at the base of the message. However, for a GS, more

 
 By: 219 : June 28th, 2009-01:56
inclined towards this one: Andrew H...  

I saw that a few months ago and it seemed unnaturally large for a Grand Seiko

 
 By: SJX : June 28th, 2009-02:18
It is just as conservative as before, but bigger. A lot bigger. - SJX

Andrew, nice to see you...

 
 By: G99 : June 30th, 2009-14:30
Andrew, nice to see you again yesterday. this GS would be a wonderful choice IMO. Seiko have always been the kings of hi beat and the GS is the King of Kings. i have their 1960's 45 calibre hi beat GS hand wind which is superb although being late 60's the... 

Thanks for sharing...

 
 By: Rob : June 27th, 2009-15:29
GREAT writeup and shots of an often overlooked piece of horology that just hits the spot, for me at least. NO regrets on getting mine and its almost a year now too! Too bad about the recent price markup as I had been itching to add a Titanium GS. Still th... 

Mine is also about 18 months old

 
 By: masterspiece : June 27th, 2009-21:28
and I still enjoy wearing it. I still get compliments from people who don't know anything about watches. I've shown it to some ADs and they just can't get over the quality of it. Only very few of them have even heard of Grand Seiko, though. I've got the e... 

Wonderful! Not the department store Seiko American's know!

 
 By: canonken : June 27th, 2009-22:14
I hope I get a job with a Japanese company so I have a good excuse to buy one!

I have the same model...

 
 By: SteveW : June 28th, 2009-02:37
... and I have to agree with everything you have written. I only wish good macro photos of the movement were available. The precision of the dial, hand and marker finishing is incredible. At the same time the case design is very much based in the 1960s - ... 

Beautiful watch!

 
 By: Peter  : June 29th, 2009-02:27
Thks for sharing

You know I am sold on Grand Seiko!

 
 By: cazalea : June 29th, 2009-14:12
Great summary, and I am very glad you are still happy with the choice of watch. Mike (nuts for GS)...  

One of the most sought-after GS

 
 By: judydad : July 1st, 2009-02:46
This SBGW003 is extremely rarily seen even here in Asian. Great collection you have!

A beauty indeed

 
 By: nasty204 : July 1st, 2009-08:13
good catch. Cheers