Saw it in person last week - this is a sensational novelty. Excellent new movement, contemporary case design, fascinating dial. Excellent amendment to a great collection.
… 3rd series. If you check the sub-dials you will note the missing „step“ between inner and outer wheel. 4th series would have a white moon (where this has yellow). Typically, the above would be a 1995-2005 production +/-.
… seems not 100% spot on regarding the location of the „Swiss“ in 2nd/3rd generation, though. Shaytun‘s watch seems to illustrate this. Otherwise, great article indeed!
… older dials (Mk2) have a different subbdial style (with hard edges), unlike this one. Your dial looks like Mk3 with these sub-dials and font. Just the Swiss stamp sits low like in Mk2. To me, this indicates that the criterion mentioned elsewhere, ie „Mk3 has Swiss integrated in minute marker circl
But this is just a 5711 - mass produced entry level with a different dial color. If you look for value that stays this watch is certainly something to avoid. More a piece for stupid money… P.S.: Long-term value of this should still be 300k I would say, reflecting there will be only 170 of it
… and is (still) cheaper… 5004 is: - much more complicated - first rattrapante with PC ever produced in series by Patek - visually of highest perfection and complexity - robust and useful to be used and enjoyed regularly
in terms of historical position would be 5004. Wonderful piece, also if used on the wrist. 5970 is very nice - but never comparable to a 2499… 3970 would be better for this, if you ask me. 5970 is just a 3970 with larger case (and the consequences for the dial).