I got told off for disclosing price list and auction value for Patek. Or is it just taboo for Patek only to discuss? lol

That is the watch I'm dying to buy. Has anyone read or heard problems with a 5270? It's a new in-house movement and I still haven't decided if it's a hole in 1 or a triple bogey and I should wait for v1.4.

Seems like the consensus is that Patek is not the same Patek it used to be. Perhaps PP tried too hard to grow too big too fast? 40k watches in 2010, 50k watches in 2012, I wonder how many they are producing now? I also wonder what is their reason to ramp up that fast risking to dilute their quality

A start to many more PPs I'm sure. Regards, Mario

I thought Sotheby's and Christie's auction results are open to public anyway. I've seen results being discussed openly here. How the watch will hold its value was his question. I also see other forum brands in puristpro talk about prices openly. Is this only taboo for Patek's forum or the rule appli

They're the only Patek authorized dealer here in Indonesia. It's a pretty big chain with shops in Hong Kong, Taiwan, Singapore, Thailand, and Malaysia. *** EDITED per forum rules*** Have you ever thought of looking for a 5070 with open papers? Or as beejo suggested a 5960 with open papers? Let us kn

*** EDITED, see my reply below*** Watches discussions on our forum is aiming at sharing passion and "horological" content but not about value, best price offer etc... We really don't know how values may behave in the future and what reference will be better than the others. Thanks! Mark My AD has a

May I know what phone you used?

Sorry I just assumed that when you wrote "Asians, for instance, want to wear the same watches Europeans do, but they are shorter and, more important, their wrists are proportionally even thinner". You know it's never good to generalize right? Lets just leave it as misinterpretation on my end. Cheers

Not exactly the best car to be driving in a sea of motorcycles driven by monkeys. Hope it's scratch proof. Well I'm Indonesian and 6'2. I think those watches would look better on me lol... Not all asians are small with little hands you know. I got big feet too. But I'm the opposite of these guys. I