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For my personal preference, this is an extremely easy one. 5100P, not even remotely close. 565 is an iconic and important vintage Calatrava - full of warmth, charm

and a watch that has aged beautifully. For me the 5565 appears rather cold and sterile … certainly not charming. Again, this is only my personal viewpoint. On the other hand, 5100P is a mechanical marvel (10 day) that is complicated, very different aesthe
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By: quattro
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amanico
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People would kill for one of those.

A 38mm steel time only calatrava with the new movement and classic sporty dial/hands (like the 5565's) would be an OBVIOUS and EASY hit for Patek. I can only explain their failure to release something like this as driven by a form of perversity on their p
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By: quattro
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amanico
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Hi Emmanuel, both are attrative and when push comes to shove I would prefer

5565A because it fits my small wrist better. Also the syringe 💉 hands has a particular charm to me that I cannot explain. The design of the manta ray is unique though. Thanks for the post !
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By: quattro
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amanico
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The 5100 for me...

The case of the 5565 never appealed to me. It's a weird hybrid between a crisp edged case (overall shape) and a soft curvaceous case, leaving a broad ill defined bezel, lugs, etc. that's neither fish nor fowl. The 5100 on the other hand is well defined an
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By: quattro
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amanico
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You have a point.

But it all depends on what one considers an every day watch: I, for example, wear the Chronometro Gondolo daily and would rather wear the 5100 than the 5565. But I know it's just me, and the 5565 is of course closer to the usual definition of an every day
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By: quattro
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amanico
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Well, since you asked;)

My vote goes for the 5565A, due to a more special look wearability and legibility. I owned the 5100G and sold it with no regrets. While the movement is very special and visually very appealing, the legibility was close to zero and due to the curving middl
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By: quattro
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amanico
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I will also say 5100 without hesitation

However, I want to throw in an argument on behalf of the 5565. There are rare occasions on which I think, "What if I quit collecting watches and just wore one flexible fine watch every day?" And on those occasions I think that the 5565 would be an ideal c
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By: quattro
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amanico
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Which one for you?

Two Patek Philippe celebration timepieces , both limited to 300 pieces : Left : Calatrava Geneva Boutique Edition ref. 5565A-001 in steel , launched in 2006 to commemorate the opening of the then-new Geneva boutique. Powered by Manual-wind cal. 215 PS . R
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By: quattro
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amanico
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A Glimpse into the Past with Reference 565

Hello all, been many a day since I've posted. Thought I'd jump back in with a recent acquisition - one of my grail of grails - the reference 565J For those that are unfamiliar with vintage Patek, the reference 565 was produced from 1938 until 1952 and is
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By: Duffymcpatzer
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FabR
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I like the 5565.

This 565 is a personal favourite. I would definitely take a smaller case size to have a better placement of the sub seconds. Credit Bob Marron
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By: amanico
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amanico
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