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There is no bad 5070... :)))

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By: amanico
48
amanico
1701

I can totally understand the love for the 5070

The 5070 (and 5970 and 5712) are my fav pateks from the modern era Here is my R.. 42mm but wears like 40..
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By: amanico
48
amanico
1701

And now could be the time to buy

In the secondary market this has to be one of the worst in a decade The average price for a 5070 in 2016 was between 52 and 60k euro Today they’re still stuck at 55-65 k A style and movement much more interesting than als the chronographs that patek made
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By: amanico
48
amanico
1701

Patek Philippe 5070G.

17 years with me, and the love is still going for this watch. Best, Nicolas
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By: amanico
48
amanico
1701

Great choice, but I still can’t decide between salmon or navy.

To my eye, this reference stands as a most accomplished expression of the chronograph tradition, gracefully drawing upon the lineage of such emblematic models as the Patek Philippe Ref. 130, whose clarity of design established the canon; the Patek Philipp
22h
By: Clueless_Collector
39
Clueless_Collector
2275

Of all the references the 5970 series had the most “commissions”

The ref 5004 closely follows then the 5070. Some are genuinely unique dials but some where made in a very small series. However, to put all this into perspective I predict that only 50-100 pieces were made. Consider approximately 3000 pieces were made, th
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By: Bruno.M1
23
GLau
1790

How 'special' or how 'overrated' is a unique dial ??

Take this as an example, a 5970 with a unique dial But that is just the same case, movement, level of finishing .... everything 100% the same except the dial ofcourse Now .... That watch just sold at Phillips for more or less 1.4 million euro Now, looking
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By: Bruno.M1
23
GLau
1790

These appear to be in the ballpark of secondary market prices.

Many sites inflate the price by at least 10-15% giving them a margin to negotiate. And when it comes to patek, unless it’s a nautilus or aquanaut, or a reference that was undervalued like a 3940 or 3970, prices are fairly flat. For example, I’ve been foll
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By: mdg
38
amanico
2802

Are auction prices 'real'?

I was looking for some articles on the Patek ref. 5135P Annual Calendar. I came across a Sotheby's listing for an auction in September/October of 2025, so not too long ago. This one hammered at 25,400 Euros, or about $30,000 U.S. That seemed incredibly lo
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By: mdg
38
amanico
2802