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5236P stands out due to 3448 case design, new dial layout and cool platinum micro rotor
Apr 13, 2021,07:47 AM
It would have been perfect if it had an instantaneous perpetual calendar.
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New Release April 12th
By: Patekfinity : April 12th, 2021-05:05
What do you think? Innovative? 5236P 6119R 6119G 4947/1A 4997/200G ...
6119g is pure fire
By: CastorKrieg : April 12th, 2021-05:08
8.1mm, manual wind, 65hrs power reserve.
Thanks!
By: Watch_kha_wen : April 12th, 2021-10:43
Just looked them up it’s pretty nice. A shame it’s slightly bigger than the previous versions. Kev
MY HOBNAIL WATCH
By: vicunaman1 : April 14th, 2021-08:12
Taking my 3520D out of the freezer.....still a beauty at 33mm. She'll be 50 this summer..
5236P is a stunner.
By: Pretty Boy : April 12th, 2021-05:14
I like this case shape anyway (3448, 5235 etc.), it’s pure class. The dial is very beautiful and legible. The only downside for me is the case diameter; would have preferred between 39 and 40 mm. Best, V.
But as someone whose eyesight is not great
By: Patekphilippecollector : April 12th, 2021-05:38
I find window display better than dial..especially date...even I can remember the month so use the date more frequently...the movement also looks nicely finished
agreed with that!
By: GirlAndHerWatches : April 12th, 2021-05:50
But I did look at more pictures, it reminds me of cyclopes! I wonder what it would look like with a little bit of spacing
Is the target audience really the same?
By: CastorKrieg : April 12th, 2021-05:48
Apart from the same material 4947/1A is not really a sport watch, although steel+bracelet makes it a lot more versatile.
+1
By: Gwai : April 12th, 2021-07:16
Huge fan of the VC 82172 here, whose hands (and bezel) I vastly prefer. The Calatrava case and the movement are quite beautiful, though. Cheers Marc
mmmmmm
By: anaroku : April 12th, 2021-05:30
I can`t welcome them with my sincere hospitality quickly. But probably I would gradually tend to accept them.
Oho! Aha! At last!
By: Esharp : April 12th, 2021-05:40
Finally, a new Calatrava without that darned dare window. I’m not sure if the 6119 works for me completely yet: clous de Paris railroad track with little dots outside the main indexes sorta-Dauphine hands...might be one element too many; what if the railr...
Long time coming...
By: Monopolisf : April 12th, 2021-05:46
I view both the 5236P and the 6119R/G as long overdue. These releases are all about next generation movements and they are stunning! I will be enthusiastic to see the 5236P’s new perpetual calendar movement and the new 6119’s manual wind trickle down to o...
thanks!
By: keks : April 12th, 2021-06:06
I think this is a welcome addition to the lineup... long overdue.. both the time only and the perpetual... very nice!
Thank you for updating the pictures!
By: Patekfinity : April 12th, 2021-07:03
Thank you! Thanks for updating the pics as well. Definitely looking forward to seeing these references in person. The 5236P may be slightly large with case diameter of 41.3mm...will need to see on wrist the taper of the lugs.
Evolutionary innovation but stunning!
By: pfang56 : April 12th, 2021-06:24
On first glance - the 6119 looks very much like the 2013 Vacheron Constantin Traditionelle Small Seconds, but adds a nice hobnail bezel. I have been eyeing some of these in the past in a grey variant, so to see it similarly configured in PP is interesting...
My preference is for the VC 82172 vs. the Patek 6119
By: LS : April 12th, 2021-08:05
I think the VC is more original in design. The VC has the Geneva seal. Subdial is nice. And the dial furniture is not overdone. It looks like the 6119 tried to combine the the VC with some of the older saxonia dial. The ~50% premium for the Patek very ric...
Agreed.
By: Gwai : April 12th, 2021-10:07
Cheers Marc
Agreed.
By: andyhud : April 12th, 2021-12:27
The handset on the 6119 is less attractive IMO. I like the dauphine style (I think that is it) on the VC and think that's a better fit with the rest of the dial furniture. Otherwise I think the 6119 is a slam dunk. The hobnailing probably looks great in p...
Stunning
By: Velobuck : April 12th, 2021-06:33
I can’t stop staring at it!
Hmmm - not fully convinced.....
By: lm6 : April 12th, 2021-06:58
Must - as always - see them in the metal. The 6119 seems to be struggling - not knowing what it want's to be. The bezel and the hour-markers gives it (in the pictures at least) a very robust and "masculine" attitude - but at the same time it tries to be e...
Well done Patek! ♥️
By: tempus : April 12th, 2021-07:08
Love the 6191R!!! From the back, too ♥️ Great Perpetual Calendar, but 39/40 mm would be enough for me...It has to be on the wrist before a final judgement...great anyway! Good year for PP...maybe sth more to come? Best Tempus
I love the 6119 movement
By: Chromatic Fugue : April 12th, 2021-07:33
Not quite so sure about the dial side. Would prefer it not to have a hobnail bezel. To me, at least, that feature adds a degree of dressiness/fustiness at odds with the athletic straightforwardness of the rest of the watch. Luckily, Patek will use the sam...
Looks amazing
By: Chronometer (aka yacomino) : April 12th, 2021-16:09
+1👍🥂
By: FabR : April 12th, 2021-16:19
Too large!
By: sham1 : April 12th, 2021-07:22
That's my verdict on the 5236P and the 6119G and R. Yes they have beautiful movements but the perpetual calendar should be no more than 39mm rather than 41.3mm. As for the 6119, it is refreshing to see a movement other than a 215 or 240 or 324 being used ...
Drool time to save up
By: gunungbesarsekali : April 12th, 2021-07:39
Very nice releases from patek love the steel annual,new calatrava is awsome too,that perpetual calendar great year from patek
First, PP has a bad typo on their site....
By: mdg : April 12th, 2021-07:43
The 6119R is listed as 'Yellow Gold.' When I saw the photo in this thread I thought, 'wow, I hope it's available in Yellow gold. Went to the site and it said 'Yellow gold.' But it's got an 'R' after it and the next page lists it as Rose gold. Aestheticall...
Calatrava
By: chris7509 : April 12th, 2021-07:56
Big fan of the new Calatrava - Black one, probably my first "simple" PP ... I d love to be able to afford the perpetual but it is out of my league ... Besides, with this price point it starts also touching the double high complications like PP + chrono i ...
Well Done Patek
By: drphileasfogg : April 12th, 2021-08:07
New Perpetual and Calatravas are fantastic. Today, PP has shown one more time that they are at the top of this industry.
The 5236 is a marvel of innovation
By: Chromatic Fugue : April 12th, 2021-08:15
I also like the simplicity of the dial’s presentation. But one misgiving and one observation. First, I keep thinking “there should be a space between the day and the date and between the date and the month.” That might be peculiar to me because I do a lot...
May I say that this is Patek?
By: piccolochimico (aka dsgalaxy1) : April 12th, 2021-08:32
I like them all. The movement of calatrava looks gorgeous
The perpetual is awesome
By: VinnieD : April 12th, 2021-08:40
But I am attracted to the 6119G even though I am usually not a fan of hobnail bezels. Here, the bold hands, dial texture (vertical brushed, my favourite), and the superb updated movement make it a winner. To be tried on the wrist!
Talked with Paris Salon ...
By: chris7509 : April 12th, 2021-09:08
Looks like they have the watches (at least presentations ones and probably not the Nauti ...) and we are waiting for the lock down here to end so that they can present them face to face ...
Thank you as a fellow Parisian!
By: CastorKrieg : April 12th, 2021-11:16
Hopefully I will be able to try them soon - just learned that my SA moved on from Patek, so I need to make a new friend
very interesting new releases
By: Mr.Gatsby : April 12th, 2021-09:09
Gotta see them in the flesh. The calatravas look promising ...5236p is well executed in my humble opinion, alas for me the size is a problem and I feel the case shouldn’t go beyond 40mm. Nevertheless, have to see them in the flesh
I like the architecture of the new movements. Otherwise...
By: oyster case : April 12th, 2021-09:26
The 5236p date display doesn't work for me, a cluttered line with off putting round wheel sides. Also pretty large dimensions not in keeping with a PP pc. The 6119, as many others have said, is extremely similar and not as attractive as the Vacheron Const...
Thrilled to finally see a cohesive design at the “entry level”
By: Francoamerican : April 12th, 2021-09:26
The 6119g has the beautiful design Patek had been only offering lately on grand complications; the watch aesthetic could have been for the new minute repeater or tourbillon but it’s for a simple 3 hander. Also nice to see that the best execution of Patek ...
Gorgeous!!
By: keks : April 12th, 2021-11:19
Lovely indeed
👍🥂
By: FabR : April 12th, 2021-11:23
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By: keks : April 12th, 2021-11:19
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Perp
By: keks : April 12th, 2021-11:18
5236 is stunning... amazing dial layout... and a seconds hand! And micro rotor... perfection!!
I am impressed by these novelties
By: patrickh : April 12th, 2021-11:55
I applaude the innovative 5236P calibre. And hope to could see it in real to check the legibility of the "day date month". Maybe, looking at official photos, I should have expected a different color (i.e. blue) just for the date to increase the legibility...
Thank you FabR
By: Seconds : April 12th, 2021-17:25
Big thanks for the beautiful pictures and your time to do this . The 6119 R is the one for me . Best Regards Seconds
Evocative of VC on the dial side.
By: Horo_Traveler : April 12th, 2021-17:38
The hobnail isn’t for me, but that is a matter of personal taste. I wonder if the larger diameter will further exacerbate the thin dinner plate feeling of the 5196 with this enlarged case size. At least on my wrist, the thickness needs to increase slightl...
I’m not sure I get the 4947.
By: Wristenthusiast : April 12th, 2021-18:17
It looks good. But they had that layout, then went to the layout of 5396 and now back to this. I guess they did it on purpose to offer a variety?
great new offering from PP
By: watch-guy.com : April 12th, 2021-19:38
The PC is a stunner , same case as 5235 Not sure I would spend $130 k though to acquire it But kudos to PP for a new ( really new - not new colour ) watch Julian
Design excellence in the perpetual
By: chintu : April 13th, 2021-04:31
The in-line date display is a design delight. Perfectly sized and legible and keeping the dial uncluttered. Patek has stepped up the game and made it tougher for other brands to do any better. IMHO this is a gauntlet thrown at A.Lange & Sohne's Lange ...
30-255 PS
By: chintu : April 13th, 2021-06:32
Seems surprisingly low on hand finishing; no artisanal level of anglage to be excited about ; and the rubies have been set into pressed chatons and thus no screws either around the chatons. One might argue that the blued screws are more a Glashutte tradit...
It occurred to me that
By: chintu : April 13th, 2021-22:53
Patek has not yet been able to create a perpetual where all the indications ( day; date, month) can be adjusted by one pusher; and at the same time also each indication individually adjustable if needed, by separate pushers. Patek perpetuals also do not h...
The 6119...
By: w220 : April 13th, 2021-15:53
The case of the 6119 are in many ways an upsized version of the 30mm 3796D from the 1990's. The dial is of course different, but upscale the 3796D to 39mm and you have the 6119 . Image credits grayandsons. ...
5236P
By: DRV83 : April 18th, 2021-23:28
Really interested in this piece, just wondering what the price will be.
Thx!
By: DRV83 : April 19th, 2021-01:25
As expected, worth it I think
Thanks for starting this thread
By: David_S : April 19th, 2021-02:57
I was lucky enough to see them in the metal at the Geneva Salon. There is clearly a theme here: 4 of the 5 look significantly better in the metal. The Calatravas are truly beautifully executed. The 6119G in particular is extremely elegant and the finish o...