Cpt Scarlet[Moderator - Cartier - WristScan]
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The Explorer is an excellent watch...
Dec 11, 2019,12:05 PM
How did you manage to do that to an Omega,.. did you drop it ?
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What’s Your Take On This ?...
By: Cpt Scarlet : December 10th, 2019-02:22
Recently, I was standing outside an Omega Boutique, browsing the window and a guy (aged approximately 45) and his two friends walked up and started a discussion about watches..... “I don’t want a Rolex” he said ... “They’re for old guys and I’m not 50 yet...
Same here... I don't buy modern Rolex models
By: 中野れい : December 10th, 2019-02:30
Vintage too (scary as I am not too knowledgable), only have 16610 since 1989 and 1655 now though I don't plan to hold onto long (have had 16700, 16750, 5513 before) Reason? Hm..all my friends talk about is Rolex for 20+ years, it gets very boring to me to...
IMHO..
By: Fjan : December 10th, 2019-02:40
If there are no waiting list no premium, I think they will swing over to Rolex.. but again, after they bought the Rolex they will for sure look at Omega as second or third watches but eventually they will be wearing their Rolex more often.. hahaha of cors...
Interesting points about ...
By: Cpt Scarlet : December 10th, 2019-02:50
The waiting list and premium, but I think this guy was looking at it from a different perspective. Thanks for giving us your opinion.
Hi thanks for your thoughts on this...
By: Cpt Scarlet : December 10th, 2019-03:11
It has been going on for decades but public perception can change and the conversation was an interesting insight.
Hi Bounce...
By: Cpt Scarlet : December 10th, 2019-03:13
I didn’t want to name anyone ... Say hi to your two friends ;-))
Hi captain,
By: agyzace : December 10th, 2019-17:02
My take is that for a number of reasons, Omega is imo indeed shifting perceptions favorably. Focusing on technical excellence - and innovation, it is imho a modern day Rolex. Workhorses featuring coaxial movements, superlative antimagnetism, longer than a...
Hi Alex...
By: Cpt Scarlet : December 11th, 2019-12:31
All interesting points. I guess we all don’t like being told “no” by an AD.
I think it is a couple of factors
By: LS : December 10th, 2019-04:44
1. Rolex is making their steel sports watches unobtainable 2. Every new generation rebels a little bit from the previous generation in taste. As many of us have delighted in watches for 20 years. New watch enthusiasts, who are part of the next generation,...
Possibly but ....
By: Cpt Scarlet : December 10th, 2019-06:40
Firstly Omega offer excellent steel sports watches that don’t cost $$$$ and secondly Omega have a marketing strategy that is equally appealing to many people.
Hi Fab....
By: Cpt Scarlet : December 10th, 2019-06:44
I’m aware that three people doesn’t make a conclusive sample of the market and that’s partially why, I have raised this subject for friendly debate within our community.
Hello Abel, thank you for your thoughts...
By: Cpt Scarlet : December 10th, 2019-06:53
It’s difficult to know what to add to your comments, as I think that from your personal experience of dealing with both a Rolex and Omega you have summed it up perfectly. No one can deny that Rolex make superb watches but something is definitely working f...
Rolex vs Omega
By: pmh6000 : December 10th, 2019-07:12
I also think there was a little self accreditation in the remark about Rolex which is fine. However this conversion is like the Coke/Pepsi, Ford/Chevy, Mercedes/BMW versions with both sides having very valid points. Two different marketing approaches from...
Welcome to this debate...
By: Cpt Scarlet : December 10th, 2019-07:23
and generally I agree but do you think that a subtle change is happening ?
R vs O
By: pmh6000 : December 11th, 2019-04:04
To answer your question from my viewpoint, my main Rolex dealer is 3 miles from me and I am in there regularly. They also have the Omega brand and I do not see any shift from Rolex to Omega and the AD’s confirm this to me even with the scarcity of the ste...
Cpt, to your question......
By: S F : December 10th, 2019-07:39
I personally do not see the shift. The stereotype “old” Rolex is always those with fluted bezel and jubilee bracelet. I do not know of anyone who buys an Omega Seamaster or Speedmaster because the Rolex Sub or Daytona are “too old” for them. I believe Ome...
Hello S F ....
By: Cpt Scarlet : December 10th, 2019-11:43
Thank you for trying to find an answer to this. I agree with your comment about Omega gaining traction in part, due to reading the market correctly and delivering the right product.
I can see that
By: Spencer Karrington : December 10th, 2019-08:04
After so long of marketing by Rolex, Rolex has become mainstream which reuslts in the brand being associated with the status quo which inturn is associated with an older generation. I also think that Omega's advertising is a bit different in its focus whc...
Thank you
By: Spencer Karrington : December 11th, 2019-08:01
I am not that knowledgeable about Rolex and so this is just what I have noticed
This notion is going on for many years...
By: ZSHSZ : December 10th, 2019-08:19
I myself was one of this guy’s back in the day, at the beginning of this hobby. I was a huge Omega fan, and under no circumstances would wear or buy a Rolex. Now that all changed , and I just can’t like Omega... To me it’s just the feel of the watch , the...
I am Rolex guy so of course I am bias
By: jim_94104 : December 10th, 2019-08:37
but the fact that the three young men care to mention the brand they don't want is a Rolex tells me that is a win marketing wise for Rolex. I also suspect they will come around once they have the means.
Yes, I know that you didn’t ...
By: Cpt Scarlet : December 10th, 2019-14:57
Use the term in a demeaning way. Thanks for making your point. It’s all in good spirit.
Anecdotal evidence
By: Uncle Chico : December 10th, 2019-09:02
I was standing in front of a Wempe window when a group of young boys pushed me out of the way to ogle the Rolex. I think the brand will continue to appeal to young people because it is what their idols wear and has become a symbol of having arrived. Watch...
That’s great to know but ...
By: Cpt Scarlet : December 10th, 2019-12:59
What’s your opinion about the subject in hand ?.... it would be great to have your opinion.
Definitely for after sale value...
By: FlyingSnoopy : December 10th, 2019-09:48
BUT only for few models Rolex is a bette4 investment. However I think that a few years now Omega has improved considerably and the speedmaster and Seamaster would match the Daytona and submariner. Personally I do not liKe the “unavailability” of certain r...
I use Rolex
By: batholith : December 10th, 2019-10:18
for work, pretty much exclusively. From personal experience, the Coaxial movement is fragile in comparison. When I'm going to be incommunicado for a few weeks, I almost always have an Explorer 2 on my wrist. ...
Agreed
By: batholith : December 10th, 2019-10:54
and I enjoy wearing that Speedmaster for casual use now. It's comfortable, versatile and accurate. Wasn't a hit, though, as far as I could tell at the time and I have no idea what did the damage. That said, my work is tough at times.
I have no idea
By: batholith : December 12th, 2019-10:15
how that happened. No, it was not dropped. Just my usual routine wear. Admittedly, my work can get quite tough but I certainly did not knock the watch against anything any harder than normal. It was doubly unfortunate as I was seriously considering a Plop...
Shift in the brand??
By: aWtchslvr : December 10th, 2019-10:50
I dont know. I can tell that I dont have Rolex because there is no one (steel) that I like. However right now I am to buy an Omega.
Aqua Terra GMT Good Planet.
By: aWtchslvr : December 10th, 2019-13:34
It was presented here by Nilomis 4 years ago. if anyone is interested his photos are superb. I was in Geneve last weekend, I saw it and... love at first sight. By the way, I am 52 years old. Cheers.
45
By: Weems@8 : December 10th, 2019-11:19
My age is 45. I am almost there to buy an Omega Seamaster 300. Today i ask my boss for free days, to enjoy in all rest my new purchase. No hurry, just enjoy the watch. An Omega seamaster 300 holiday. If i plan a holiday for a watch, than that watch means ...
Hi Nicolas...
By: Cpt Scarlet : December 10th, 2019-14:36
What’s your thinking on the question in my post about this subject ?
My question was...
By: Cpt Scarlet : December 10th, 2019-14:42
do you think that after many years a shift in brand perception is gently moving in favour of Omega ?
No. [nt]
By: amanico : December 10th, 2019-14:48
True story: I was at my watchmaker's shop one day earlier this year . . .
By: Dr No : December 10th, 2019-17:00
. . . when a relatively young guy (30-ish) walked in with his wife and kid. He just needed a battery, so I said to my watchmaker, "Please take care of this gentleman first." The young man smiled, said "Thanks!", and then asked, "What's that watch you're w...
LOL! Good one Art...
By: India Whiskey Charlie : December 10th, 2019-17:04
Unfortunately, that's quite typical these days.
Shifting? I don’t think so
By: rnaden : December 10th, 2019-19:19
Although I get why they were making those comments. Some people just don’t get the Rolex appeal. I’ve to admit that I’ve had quite a few Rolex in the past, from the sports models to the OP but for one reason or another could never really bond with it. The...
Hi Richard, interesting reply ....
By: Cpt Scarlet : December 11th, 2019-01:46
Thanks for making your point of view on this subject. The Seamaster 300 is a great watch with a long history behind it and as you say very wearable. This doesn’t detract from the fact that Rolex makes great watches.
Hi Padj...
By: Cpt Scarlet : December 11th, 2019-12:13
Thanks for giving your view on this. You summed it it for me.
Indeed.
By: TheMadDruid : December 12th, 2019-06:56
Spring and Fall as well. I mean Autumn! Autumn!