Gotta see them in the flesh. The calatravas look promising ...5236p is well executed in my humble opinion, alas for me the size is a problem and I feel the case shouldn’t go beyond 40mm. Nevertheless, have to see them in the flesh
I like this case shape anyway (3448, 5235 etc.), it’s pure class. The dial is very beautiful and legible. The only downside for me is the case diameter; would have preferred between 39 and 40 mm. Best, V.
By: Patekphilippecollector : April 12th, 2021-05:38
I find window display better than dial..especially date...even I can remember the month so use the date more frequently...the movement also looks nicely finished
The combination of the case with the colors on the dial is sublime. The case size is modern without being too oversized. I am already in touch with my AD. I also like the 6119R in the classic Calatrava case and it has a very good power reserve (but it is ...
The VC 38mm is the model which seems to be more similar to the 6119. There is a nice write up on the VC on H.com which compares it to the FPJ CB and the Lange which gives a decent look at the case. Also the 38mm is 7.77mm thick with a similar PR, railroad...
Traditionelle - very similar to 6119, and not necessarily a disc like case IMHO. Patrimony - more disc like as you mentioned...but not similar to the 6119 ...
Finally, a new Calatrava without that darned dare window. I’m not sure if the 6119 works for me completely yet: clous de Paris railroad track with little dots outside the main indexes sorta-Dauphine hands...might be one element too many; what if the railr...
I view both the 5236P and the 6119R/G as long overdue. These releases are all about next generation movements and they are stunning! I will be enthusiastic to see the 5236P’s new perpetual calendar movement and the new 6119’s manual wind trickle down to o...
Thank you! Thanks for updating the pics as well. Definitely looking forward to seeing these references in person. The 5236P may be slightly large with case diameter of 41.3mm...will need to see on wrist the taper of the lugs.
U.S pricing: Patek Philippe Ref. 4947/1A-001 $47,904 Patek Philippe Ref. 4997/200G-001 $36,667 Patek Philippe Ref. 5236P-001 $130,108 Patek Philippe Ref. 6119G-001 $29,570 Patek Philippe Ref. 6119R-001 $29,570
On first glance - the 6119 looks very much like the 2013 Vacheron Constantin Traditionelle Small Seconds, but adds a nice hobnail bezel. I have been eyeing some of these in the past in a grey variant, so to see it similarly configured in PP is interesting...
I think the VC is more original in design. The VC has the Geneva seal. Subdial is nice. And the dial furniture is not overdone. It looks like the 6119 tried to combine the the VC with some of the older saxonia dial. The ~50% premium for the Patek very ric...
The handset on the 6119 is less attractive IMO. I like the dauphine style (I think that is it) on the VC and think that's a better fit with the rest of the dial furniture. Otherwise I think the 6119 is a slam dunk. The hobnailing probably looks great in p...
I wonder if they tried sapphire disks or frames to produce a more unified linear triple date. I would assume they tried everything, but the outcome isn't totally satisfying.
Must - as always - see them in the metal. The 6119 seems to be struggling - not knowing what it want's to be. The bezel and the hour-markers gives it (in the pictures at least) a very robust and "masculine" attitude - but at the same time it tries to be e...
Love the 6191R!!! From the back, too ♥️ Great Perpetual Calendar, but 39/40 mm would be enough for me...It has to be on the wrist before a final judgement...great anyway! Good year for PP...maybe sth more to come? Best Tempus
Not quite so sure about the dial side. Would prefer it not to have a hobnail bezel. To me, at least, that feature adds a degree of dressiness/fustiness at odds with the athletic straightforwardness of the rest of the watch. Luckily, Patek will use the sam...
That's my verdict on the 5236P and the 6119G and R. Yes they have beautiful movements but the perpetual calendar should be no more than 39mm rather than 41.3mm. As for the 6119, it is refreshing to see a movement other than a 215 or 240 or 324 being used ...
The 6119R is listed as 'Yellow Gold.' When I saw the photo in this thread I thought, 'wow, I hope it's available in Yellow gold. Went to the site and it said 'Yellow gold.' But it's got an 'R' after it and the next page lists it as Rose gold. Aestheticall...
Big fan of the new Calatrava - Black one, probably my first "simple" PP ... I d love to be able to afford the perpetual but it is out of my league ... Besides, with this price point it starts also touching the double high complications like PP + chrono i ...
They appear similar to the ones on the newer GS lines. I think I would have preferred the handsets of any of the other models. Need to see in the flesh.
I also like the simplicity of the dial’s presentation. But one misgiving and one observation. First, I keep thinking “there should be a space between the day and the date and between the date and the month.” That might be peculiar to me because I do a lot...
But I am attracted to the 6119G even though I am usually not a fan of hobnail bezels. Here, the bold hands, dial texture (vertical brushed, my favourite), and the superb updated movement make it a winner. To be tried on the wrist!
Looks like they have the watches (at least presentations ones and probably not the Nauti ...) and we are waiting for the lock down here to end so that they can present them face to face ...
Gotta see them in the flesh. The calatravas look promising ...5236p is well executed in my humble opinion, alas for me the size is a problem and I feel the case shouldn’t go beyond 40mm. Nevertheless, have to see them in the flesh
Although I agree it’s a triumph in a way the 5320 and 5172 were not - non-sports are generally all available. People are too busy spending six figures on grey market aquanauts because of John Meyer.
The 5236p date display doesn't work for me, a cluttered line with off putting round wheel sides. Also pretty large dimensions not in keeping with a PP pc. The 6119, as many others have said, is extremely similar and not as attractive as the Vacheron Const...
The 6119g has the beautiful design Patek had been only offering lately on grand complications; the watch aesthetic could have been for the new minute repeater or tourbillon but it’s for a simple 3 hander. Also nice to see that the best execution of Patek ...
I applaude the innovative 5236P calibre. And hope to could see it in real to check the legibility of the "day date month". Maybe, looking at official photos, I should have expected a different color (i.e. blue) just for the date to increase the legibility...
While the case size is slightly large for a traditional micro rotor PC, the lugs and case lines are appealing. I also like that it’s a PC with a seconds function. The use of steel on the 4947 is exciting. If it had a salmon dial with charcoal hands, numbe...
The hobnail isn’t for me, but that is a matter of personal taste. I wonder if the larger diameter will further exacerbate the thin dinner plate feeling of the 5196 with this enlarged case size. At least on my wrist, the thickness needs to increase slightl...
The PC is a stunner , same case as 5235 Not sure I would spend $130 k though to acquire it But kudos to PP for a new ( really new - not new colour ) watch Julian
The in-line date display is a design delight. Perfectly sized and legible and keeping the dial uncluttered. Patek has stepped up the game and made it tougher for other brands to do any better. IMHO this is a gauntlet thrown at A.Lange & Sohne's Lange ...
Seems surprisingly low on hand finishing; no artisanal level of anglage to be excited about ; and the rubies have been set into pressed chatons and thus no screws either around the chatons. One might argue that the blued screws are more a Glashutte tradit...
Patek has not yet been able to create a perpetual where all the indications ( day; date, month) can be adjusted by one pusher; and at the same time also each indication individually adjustable if needed, by separate pushers. Patek perpetuals also do not h...
The case of the 6119 are in many ways an upsized version of the 30mm 3796D from the 1990's. The dial is of course different, but upscale the 3796D to 39mm and you have the 6119 . Image credits grayandsons. ...
I was lucky enough to see them in the metal at the Geneva Salon. There is clearly a theme here: 4 of the 5 look significantly better in the metal. The Calatravas are truly beautifully executed. The 6119G in particular is extremely elegant and the finish o...