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Salute for the watches you just bought,Joe
Mar 22, 2017,07:38 AM
Nothing in this catalogue come close to both of the 5370P and the 5131R.
Best,
Ahmed
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[Baselworld 2017] The Patek Philippe 2017 novelties
By: Mark in Paris : March 22nd, 2017-05:20
Dear all, Patek Philippe has just unveiled the new 2017 collection! As usual, we’ll all discover what we might have expected or sometimes be surprised by unplanned models. This will be the appetizers before we can handle them and make our final opinion. T...
Big thumbs up for
By: crown comfort : March 22nd, 2017-05:47
the new 5320G and the 5372! The 5170P could have been a close contender as the new 5070P if they would have left out the diamond markers Overall, I like the subtle evolution of the line-up. CC
I think they may find back their place in watchmaking
By: Mark in Paris : March 22nd, 2017-07:17
but all depends how it is done, where we'll see them etc... We'll need another 5 or 10 years to find out. In the mean time, there are references I would have prefered without them too. Best, Mark
The 5320 is indeed a very nice surprise
By: Mark in Paris : March 22nd, 2017-06:40
I like the way it seems to work very much and I'm looking forward to see it in the metal. I like the 5170P a lot. However, I still don't know what to think about the diamond markers. Will they leave this old look we have from the 1980's watches and be abl...
some definite gems
By: marco327 : March 22nd, 2017-05:54
The 5320 feels fresh and very interesting, reminds me a little bit of this watch The 5372 is a special watch hands down, otherwise the 5170P with the new dial also looks superb, a bit ambivalent on the diamonds even if Patek has stuck diamonds on platinu...
Yes indeed, the dial layout is coming from the 1526 reference
By: Mark in Paris : March 22nd, 2017-06:44
That makes this 5320 very different from the 5327. The 5372 looks very nice too, especially since we know how beautiful the case is. I like the 5170P a lot. This is the kind of dial decoration I like. Thanks for sharing your opinion Best, Mark
My first thoughts...
By: keks : March 22nd, 2017-06:01
I really enjoy this years newcomer lineup. The following stand out as very welcome additions: - 5650G. Looks amazing and finally to have these innovations in a sportier watch. Perfect way to celebrate Aquanaut 20th! Would have preferred it in steel, or ev...
I feel like...
By: Chimaera : March 22nd, 2017-06:09
....a diner in a Michelin started restaurant who ordered the tasting menu, and every single dish arrived at the same moment. Need time to take all of this in, but thank you (as ever) Mark for setting the tone.
True!
By: Mark in Paris : March 22nd, 2017-07:02
Indeed, there are quite some references to have a look at. Take your time and it will be nice to have your opinion. Thank you Chimaera. Best, Mark
5650
By: willski : March 22nd, 2017-06:19
Haven\'t seen pictures of this yet - where can I find them?
So do I
By: Mark in Paris : March 22nd, 2017-06:59
I particularly like also the fact the Advanced Research experience is placed in a contemporary watch like the Aquanaut. I don't know in what material the 5650 will be proposed (the 5168 is in white gold). I think the 42mm size will fit perfectly the Aquan...
Same first thought on the 5960G
By: alphabeta81 : March 22nd, 2017-07:55
Looks BETTER than the moscow, the varnish dial works better than sunburst, and the hands are much better too.
Love the 5170P
By: ambel : March 22nd, 2017-06:08
In dec 2015 asked my AD to put me on the list if it ever comes out. Must be the first to have asked, so who knows...
Thanks Mark.
By: beejo : March 22nd, 2017-07:33
Now I need some luck hmm...and money of course Best, Ahmed
5170p absolutely spectacular
By: keks : March 25th, 2017-07:08
Judging by photos at least. That dial is sublime and the baguette indices are tastefully applied. All in all the first 5170 I really think is extraordinary. A variety I would have loved to see in this would be a light brown dial, similar to the one used i...
Cldr
By: Gelato Monster : March 22nd, 2017-19:27
I think 5320 is nicer than 5960
Thanks Mark!
By: sham1 : March 22nd, 2017-06:30
The 5320G is a lovely looking watch but I wish the diameter was 38mm and not 40mm. Also the use of the 324SC movement, as reliable as it is, is not as pretty as the 240 movement. The 5372P-010 is a winner and at 38.3mm is a technological marvel. Although ...
I agree Sham
By: Mark in Paris : March 22nd, 2017-09:46
The 40mm 5320 is indeed another offer next to the 5327 in 39mm. I think they wish to propose something for people finding 38 or 39mm are too small for their wrist and taste. What you say about the 5372 is very true. By the way, it is important to have a l...
The following are my initial thoughts.
By: Ouroboros : March 22nd, 2017-07:07
I got really excited when I saw 5168G, until I noticed the increased size which doesn't include the crown. The dimensions of its brother in steel (5167) is already optimal, so I don't see any need or purpose by bulking up their sports watches. I would hav...
Yes, this new collection brings quite very interesting things
By: Mark in Paris : March 22nd, 2017-09:58
About the 5168, the dimensions are a tough issue to deal with. Some clients have a big wrist and 40mm watches are much too small, especially when considering a sporty version. Of course someone with a normal or small wrist will not like that. This is very...
3 in the spotlight!
By: RGS : March 22nd, 2017-07:32
The 5960/01G will be a VERY interesting reference. Aesthetically it pairs well with the 5524G and i see a small "family' of watches being created there. The sporty, modern Patek Complication (brown calf leather straps, blue dials, white metal). The 5168G ...
Oh!
By: RGS : March 22nd, 2017-08:41
Ok! Thanks...
I didn't know what to think about it at first
By: Mark in Paris : March 22nd, 2017-10:10
The 5960 is a model I like a lot. The problem is that the Pt version is a little too heavy for my taste and was looking at the other versions. This one is bringing the 5960 in a very nice casual way. I didn't know what to think from the official pictures ...
5178 steals the show for me - here is why
By: alphabeta81 : March 22nd, 2017-08:01
5078 is 38mm and 5178 is 40mm, same hands, same applied breguets. Same watch but just bigger, right? NOPE The 5178 has cathedral gongs! Patek did this for the 5079 but it was a big watch at 42mm, and with a thick bezel. (I believe the 5079 is the only tim...
Thanks for your valuable input
By: Mark in Paris : March 22nd, 2017-10:18
This is indeed much more than a size change and will be a very nice characteristic for the happy clients so as for people who enjoy the brand's history and know-how. I must say I don't know much about the older Minute-Repeater versions, thanks for sharing...
No No No No!!!!!
By: Miles_151 : March 22nd, 2017-08:09
I am still trying to take it in. I\'m not sure yet how I feel but initially my heart sank. In a way I am relieved as there is not one watch I will be loosing sleep over. For me personally I\'m so disappointed with the 5178 whilst it is a step closer for m...
Miles, so right on much of this.
By: Baron - Mr Red : March 22nd, 2017-08:25
I think there are some winners in the Patek line up but not necessarily watches that fit my collection. One or two possible. But on Rolex. Yep..... midfield dribbled the ball from own half, rounded 3 defenders, took the goalie out and crossed the ball for...
I agree Bruno
By: Mark in Paris : March 22nd, 2017-10:42
We can see some live pictures of these two references now (Magnus posted some) and it looks much more interesting than on the official pictures, especially for the PC. Best, Mark
Well, this is always a tricky subject Miles
By: Mark in Paris : March 22nd, 2017-10:40
Is evolution done the right way or not, the sizes also are a subjective matter etc... Hence, it is very difficult to consider if something is really a mistake or if it is just something we don't like because it is not our taste. Some people don't like Sal...
Thank you Mark.
By: Miles_151 : March 23rd, 2017-01:23
But in the mean time I will continue to be guided through this hobby of ours by pure gut wrenching feeling. M.
One of the best!!
By: sham1 : March 22nd, 2017-08:26
Patek collections in recent years!! Well done Patek!!
Really??? Isn't it great we all see things so differently.
By: Miles_151 : March 22nd, 2017-08:42
I would actually go 180 degrees and say it\'s the worst I\'ve ever seen. Maybe I expect too much. Maybe Patek feel a bit like Elizabeth Taylor\'s last husband......"He knew exactly what to do just didn\'t know how to make it different" M.
LoL [nt]
By: Baron - Mr Red : March 22nd, 2017-09:01
Really MIles?! :-)
By: sham1 : March 22nd, 2017-10:47
You are a man who I respect and admire for your immaculate taste in watches. So if you are seeing things quite differently, maybe I am missing something and will have to have a more careful examination when I have an appointment to view the new collection...
There are some very attracting pieces indeed
By: Mark in Paris : March 22nd, 2017-10:44
I'm eager to see them in the metal, especially the 5320G, the 5170P, the 5168G as I think the combination will work very well. I don't think I'll see the Grandes Complications though :p Best, Mark
5170P
By: Arie - Mr Orange : March 22nd, 2017-10:28
I\'m not a fan of diamond markers perse but they wouldn\'t bother me in this case at all. Very beautiful watch.
I agree.
By: Mark in Paris : March 22nd, 2017-15:39
The 5170P has a gorgeous dial (I like the scale and the way it is decorated) and I must say the diamond markers work well here. Best, Mark
5320G of course
By: ch9698 : March 22nd, 2017-11:38
with these superb art deco horns Mark, your perpetual dream concerning the 5960P will continue
It looks very promising indeed
By: Mark in Paris : March 22nd, 2017-16:17
I like its style a lot and I think it shows a part of the brand's future. Yes CH', the 5960's choice is a very long journey. Best, Mark
I had the same thoughts
By: Mark in Paris : March 22nd, 2017-16:34
Especially when the 40th anniversary Nautilus was released. The price and decoration choice is also a way to say to clients, if you want it you have to pay a certain price that will make a quick re sell difficult. On the other hand, I think I would differ...
My first impression is that I'm a little underwhelmed.
By: RussW : March 22nd, 2017-11:55
I don\'t think it\'s a bad collection by any means but I feel like there are a few missed opportunities. The 5171p is nice, but I would have loved breguet numerals. The aquanaut travel time - great to see more results from Advanced Research, and quite fit...
Thanks for your feedback Russ
By: Mark in Paris : March 23rd, 2017-15:11
It is interesting to see how different the new models are seen on the forum. I have the same feeling on the 5650's dial. As for the 5960/1A, I don't think they will provide a strap version as it will have a quite negative impact on the value of all the br...
Patek
By: uaewatchguy : March 22nd, 2017-12:27
Can\'t wait for your opinion Kari. Iqbal
Make a guess.
By: dr.kol : March 22nd, 2017-15:43
I'll buy at leat one but not more than three plus one for my wife. Best, Kari
Loving the Arctic, that's a good guess.
By: dr.kol : March 22nd, 2017-15:55
However, it is wrong. The dial is fantastic but nobody probably want to have the bracelet. It's just a way to push the price up and I do not really appreciate such a philosophy. Patek knows what the collectors and enthusiasts want and they should not be t...
Kari
By: ch9698 : March 22nd, 2017-23:26
We used to focus on same, so 5320G
5320 is a strong contender
By: dr.kol : March 23rd, 2017-00:14
when it's coming in P. I have, just like you, both 5450P and 5550P. What would be the ideal travel watch? Best, Kari
That shows how high our expectations are when dealing with Patek Philippe
By: Mark in Paris : March 23rd, 2017-15:16
and it is also a field in which we want to get what we like, without compromise. That's perfectly natural. On the other hand, our tastes evolve and our way to see new things (not only in watchmaking) can be different depending on the point of view and how...
Surprised by the black dial
By: drphileasfogg : March 22nd, 2017-12:56
5960A, saw a real photo on Instagram, looks awesome, even with the bracelet. Disappointed by the 5230G: too big. But let\'s wait for the hands-on experience before ruling out anything. Best.
Yes indeed
By: Mark in Paris : March 23rd, 2017-15:20
it is hard to have a definitive opinion from official pictures (and a few on the internet) but that grainy/mat black dial looks very nice and the watch with bracelet seems to look better in that version than the white one. I was surprised. Let's try them ...
Nicely done
By: w220 : March 22nd, 2017-16:20
Overall a strong presentation from Patek this year in my view. The 5320G is my clear favorite, although at 40mm it is larger than a 5146, so it may be a little on the large side. But it's hard to say without having seen the watch in person. Lots of very h...
This 5320 seems to be very welcome indeed
By: Mark in Paris : March 23rd, 2017-15:26
One of the novelties Purists are really willing to try on. The very complicated ones are a pleasure to admire and dream about even if not affordable indeed. I imgaine like some beautiful cars. I love that 5078/5178 dial Thanks for your feedback! Best, Mar...
Calendar
By: Gelato Monster : March 22nd, 2017-18:41
The 5320 is the nicest calendar from PP
Another vote for the new PC
By: Mark in Paris : March 23rd, 2017-15:27
It is indeed a watch that many of us really want to see in real. Thanks for your input! Best, Mark
Superbly put. My thoughts with your exceptional delivery.
By: Miles_151 : March 23rd, 2017-01:36
You are bang on. Please someone explain to me. How is it that Rolex can produce a watch like the 6062 in the early 50\'s and nearly 70 years on with all modern watch making technology can only produce a simple moon phase like they have. Please someone is ...
No....it is not you.
By: Baron - Mr Red : March 23rd, 2017-02:09
I think somewhere along the lines, about 5 years ago, someone decided to cut costs and fired the entire market research team.
Thank you J.
By: Miles_151 : March 23rd, 2017-02:17
I\'m beginning to think it\'s me and I\'ve lost my mind. M.
Great first feedback
By: Mark in Paris : March 23rd, 2017-15:45
It is interesting to read about Purists' perspective and how they interpret the novelties. The 5320's movement is the 324 caliber with a new PC module. Indeed the dial layout is something we talked about in the past and wished to see coming back in a PC f...
A pretty good year
By: Mr. M : March 23rd, 2017-12:32
I found 2016 quite a disappointment. 2017 much better, so my top 5 this year: My favorite is the 5078G, which I find to be the nicest variation of this reference so far, well done. 5316P a beautyful replacement of the 5216. 5372P-010 is amazing too, thank...
We are of a similar mindest!
By: sham1 : March 24th, 2017-05:49
My favourite watch is definitely the 5078G for all the reasons that you mentioned. I am also partial to the 5372P-010 and the 5171P. A few months back I managed to buy the last 5940G which I still feel is the most elegant of all the 5940s and it will be n...
I'm glad you're enjoying the new collection
By: Mark in Paris : March 24th, 2017-06:21
The 5372 has a lot of success, as the 5078 and 5178 references. I noticed also that the sizes, especially for very complicated models has been kept as low as possible. This is not the trend we've been seeing these last years from the watch sector. The 594...
Never thought, this will happen!
By: dom007 : March 24th, 2017-03:54
Patek just released my exit watch and I can't stop to dream... The 5372P (blue) is just perfect! All these complications with a case diameter of just 38.3 mm and the piece is still so slim... Incredible! Movement, Case, Dial everything impeccable! Never t...
The 5372 is quite a different offer from your 5950
By: Mark in Paris : March 24th, 2017-10:09
and a great theme so start around the Split-Second It is very successful indeed among Purists. The fact they keep such complicated watches in sucha small case is an achievement and and great choice imho. Thanks for sharing your feedback Dom! Best, Mark
Thank you Russ!
By: dom007 : March 25th, 2017-03:25
With that stunning case and the blue dial, it's however for sure a serious contender...
Hi Mark, thanks for the post ! Overall I am...
By: GLau : March 24th, 2017-05:34
happy with the line-up. For me, special mention goes to 5320, 5131P, and 5178G. 5320 because of its clean and very well balanced dial for a PC. 5131G because I love cloisonné enamel dials and because I had correctly guessed that the map would be the view ...
It seems that many of the main novelties appeal to us
By: Mark in Paris : March 24th, 2017-10:13
and that's not always easy to achieve. The 5320 from Magnus picture looks to be something very special and that I'm looking forward to try. The rare handcrafts and azulejos are really nice as well. Thanks for your input Gordon! Best, Mark
Patek 2017
By: uaewatchguy : March 24th, 2017-08:09
Hi guys I\'m pretty happy with Patek\'s leases this year. My blue dial full steel 5726 Nautilus still remains a dream but Patek fulfilled another with the blue dial aquanaut sorry still need to get use to the ref no. I think they did an accelerant job wit...
5131P
By: uaewatchguy : March 24th, 2017-08:59
Sorry how could I forget about the 5131P. Personally I would have liked to have seen it on a navy strap but I do like it and would to pair it up with my 5131R . Iqbal
There are several new watches to expect in the future
By: Mark in Paris : March 24th, 2017-15:21
and the 5726 blue dial is for sure one of them! I also think that the 5168G is a fantastic offer for this kind of watch. The colour will match very nicely the warmer white gold tone and the size will fit many larger wrists as well. I think that the 5320 e...
I agree!
By: Mark in Paris : March 26th, 2017-14:21
I think it will look fantastic, the right size for many customers, a warm case hue, the blue dial and its lighter colour in the center... I'm sure it will be very successful. Thank you Babka! Best, Mark
Indeed!
By: BABKA : March 27th, 2017-21:40
Thank YOU Mark!
Thank you Mark
By: charcoal6666collector : April 4th, 2017-06:37
Really appreciate your sharing with us, although i have to say, this is the first time in my life that i honestly don't find any of the New 2017 Patek release attractive at all...... kinda ugly even....no offence
Thank you for your feedback
By: Mark in Paris : April 4th, 2017-08:36
As I said to other members, the brand has known and created different periods in terms of style. Today, many of us are especially served and attracted by the 1990's and 2000's period. The world standards, the economy, the cultures, technologies evolve and...