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but was unable to take a decent pic until now So here it is and it's gorgeous

There is a reason why I buy all these Tudors ... they're a bargain

One for me and one for a friend

But in this case the 5170P,,,, Both are nice but the 5170 wins imo

caterpillar is 5 Flower is 2 Clock at 6 o'clock is 6 Caterpillar with flower on her head is 7 Clock 5 o'clock is 5 Last line 6 + (4 x 5 )=26 6 because it's a caterpillar without flower so 5 ... but I count 1 extra because it's body has an extra 'part'

The clock and caterpillar are different in the last line If they were the same it would be 31

they completely rework the movement, make an own dial etc , like the French Pascal Coyon or Lecomte ... 100% YES. If it's just another company buying a movement, case, dial and hands, put everything together and print their name on the dial ... 100% NO

And I prefer Tudor to Rolex all the time