Mark in Paris
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An evolution in simple pieces is something interesting indeed
It is not always a question of complications when dealing with Patek Philippe and I think that the 215 will come in the next few years. It will be interesting to see the Calatrava pieces that will be unveiled with that new movement.
As for the 5296A, there is indeed a strong demand for steel watches from Patek. I don't know what they'll do as they want to keep steel watches limtied in terms of volume (thus the long Nautilus waiting list). The exception is bringing steel to traditional pieces but then, when dealing with Patek, as it is very rare, it becomes quite speculative and should be handled by the brand very softly.
So, I'm not sure they will but the solid case back is indeed something that people somtimes appreciate and it could maybe be proposed as an option, the client can decide if he wants solid or sapphire?
Thanks for your input Christian 
Best, Mark
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What would be your wishes for the next Baselworld 2017?
Patek folks, In a little less than 2 months the Basel fair will open its doors to unveil the 2017 novelties. As usual, it is time for predictions and expectations! Let’s make our Patek Philippe 3-piece wish-list for this event. It can be about a new dial ...
Steel would be nice indeed too...
with a totally different atmosphere from the gold ones. As fot the subdials, I think that because of the movement and balance Patek has chosen, it may not be the one you want in the end. Thanks for your input Nicolas Best, Mark
5131P,5170A and 5270P
I would love to get an allocation of a 5131P if they are going to make would be my top priority. I would like to see the new Qc and the 5930 both in platinum. Best, Ahmed
Maybe the new size feels better
But for some reason I don\'t prefer flat bezels,I don\'t hate prefer the concave or convex bezels and aquanaut are exception. Best, Ahmed
They will certainly come one day
I think that many here are looking for the 5131P and what kind of dial they will choose. The 5170A is indeed something that many purists would like to see. Maybe in today's economical context it will become possible. We'll see that Thanks! Best, Mark
Patek 2017
Now that the 5180 is been discontinued I\'d love to see that movement in a nautilus(Nautilus skeleton )or the introduction of a full steel 5726 with a blue dial. 5131P would be great also .
Another vote for 5131P
This one will be tough to get! Your choice for the Nautilus is interesting, I wonder if they will make such a combination of two very different styles. Who knows. Yes, the 5726 with blue dial is something many will have to get. That's maybe a possible nov...
1. New 5196 with new bigger movement
2. New 5296 with a smoother bezel 3. 5227 in platinum
I like your selection
simple 3-hand Calatravas. Since I saw the 5227 in different metals I'm also considering one in the future. A bigger manual wound movement for such watches would be great! Thanks for sharing your choices! Best, Mark
My pleasure Mark!
I so wish for an updated handwound Calatrava, 38mm, small seconds, new bigger movement, convex-shape smooth bezel, non-protected crown, and grained dial... That would be the one watch for a lifetime All the very best, Alex
Me too!
Dauphine hands, double index at twelve, single indexes for other hour markers. Maybe gold dots for the minutes, I\'m flexible on that one. (No date, of course!) Mmmm Best E.
Iterations of existing models could be interesting.
But...if I were to have a simple dream: 1. New movement to replace Cal. 215PS. A true workhouse but 22mm is really too small for the size of the cases these days... 2. Shorter service times...
A new caliber to replace the 215
is a question we see a lot, it will certainly come one day... As for your second point, I think that it can be improved indeed in some regions. I think their new building will go that way. Thanks for sharing your expectations Best, Mark
Yes!
I'd love to see this. Imagine a 5196G with a black dial and a case-filling movement with a nice, large balance. I'd want one. Cheers, Brandon
Hi Mark, I would love to see a steel version of the ...
5131 ! However unlikely that it might be. Cheers, Gordon
That's a new one!
However, as they like making surprises you never know Thanks Gordon! Best, Mark
These 3 references are watches people are willing to see indeed
A different dial and material combination can change a watch very significantly, I would love to see that. As for the 5270J, it is not the choice people express most but, as we are seeing more and more yellow gold, I guess our tastes will evolve, with tha...
You're right
Their aim is to propose a luxury version, with fine material and finishing. It is the spirit of a pilot watch with the spirit of Patek. However, getting a steel version would be another nice interpretation to see next to your beauties. Thanks Zabreg! Best...
Diskretion bitte...
My wish in general from Patek this year is less diamond and bling and back to smaller watches. My three wishes 5959J 5140A and 5216R Black Dial.
Well, I understand that the profile of watch onwers has evolved quite a bit
and it people looking for bigger cases have appeared to represent quite a wide demand. However, I appreciated that Patek has always kept szes rather low compared to the average trend while providing smaller cases on the one hand and around 41/42 on the ot...
Hi Mark
I fully acknowledge there should be watches to suit any taste or demand. Personally I Just don\'t like the trend. E.g the 3940 was replaced by the slightly bigger 5140 which now takes a very large diameter jump to 39mm in the 5327. Soon there will be no s...
I totally understand your feeling here
the minimum size for a PC is reaching a higher stage. Even thought Patek has remained in the lower range of sizes if we have a look at the average trend, maybe there is still room to include a PC in the 37/38 max case size. Maybe Patek will think about th...
Hope so
Guess I'm just conservative in my watch taste. Also never really understood combining ultra thin movements with a wide case. I find it contadictory. My current watch is approx 37mm, which I find a good size for me. Not too large and not small. My next wat...
There are many beautiful watches in that size area you're interested in
I know a collector who has a 5026 (33mm) that looks stunning. Nomos does very nice watches too, you must really try and choose what is the most appealing to you Keep us informed! Best, Mark
I'm sure you're not the only one to appreciate such offer
I know that people are difficult when dealing with sizes as I imagine we always judge as if we were going to buy it and feel like this one is not for us. But it is important to understand that, aside from the fact size is a subjective matter (depending on...
I know it will piss a lot of traditionalists off but thats a big market to be gained from AP and RM even if they decided to go that route. I know plenty of buyers in Asia and M East for such watches. There is a myriad of materials to play with rather than
Strictly SS and precious metals. There is only so much you can play with movement. Of course Patek have to decide if they are willing to lose their soul for this gained market. It must be a difficult position for Thierry as the younger generations are los...
Perfectly summed-up.
It is exactly that. Patek Philippe, to preserve their refined, classic image and good taste, always stayed a footstep back, a little more conservative. Thus they evolve but while keeping their relative position comapred to its competitors. Many Patek owne...
It seems they have a lot of success on the forum indeed
About the 240, it would be something if they chose the 31-260... In the P category, I could also have mentionned the 5227P Thanks Karl for sharing your wishes. Best, Mark
All great suggestions.
I\'d like to see an aquanaut chrono, a pilot chrono, and a new manual wind chrono using the case of the 5975.
This 5975 design would be my wish as well
but it is much more difficult to craft (thus much more expensive), especially at a higher volume level than the 175th editions, but it would be fantastic indeed (like the next generation after the 5170?). It's been 1 or 2 years that I see people asking fo...
Aquanaut!
I think the Aquanaut deserves some attention. Thus, my suggestion for 2017 would be: 1) 5167P (tropical rubber strap) and/or a new complication, such as a chronograph/date model, while the 5980 is completely discontinued from the Nautilus line, making way...
Well, it is the right time for that :)
There is indeed room for a chronograph and I feel this is something that could really appear in the short term. 5170P is high in the wish list indeed and it could be really cool. Everything will depend on the dial color and decoration. As for the 5230 I t...
5990 evolution
The 5990 was introduced 3 years ago. At the beginning, it seemed that this would be a replacement/evolution of the 5980. But since then, it remains un-evolved as a reference. Hence, I proposed, that with a complete discontinuation of the 5980 reference, t...
A new perpetual calendar
ie this one (without the min rep module).. Hopefully with a new perpetual cal mov too since we are at it.. ...
These were nice watches
The 5070 and 5074's style were a very nice step, much different than the 3940 and 5140 era. I don't think they'll go back to them but they can indeed decide in the future (after the 5327's generation) to come back to bigger proiportions as were used in th...
I like fine and light too
even if in the early days, the cases were thicker and with thicker proportions. I guess it is always a question of times. Thanks Jim for sharing your opinion. Best, Mark
I am sure we will not see any of these...
5711/1J with a blue or black dial. 5496r with rose gold Breguet numerals and dial. Is the world ready for a ceramic 5167? Not what I thought of suggesting but a 5170a would be nice
Well, that could happen
The 5711/1J with blue or black dial would be a great addition considering the comeback of yellow gold today. When I see the 5396 Patek has introduced for the 20th anniversary of the AC complication, I think that Breguet numerals would be a great addition ...
I see, I see,
A new color for the 5230 guilloché, blue for the Pt ref ? I like to see a 5930G with a black dial (Pt version ?) The 5960A will go or a final dial version will be on offer – but it will probably go. And yes, the 5170P and 5227P will be there. A chrono aqu...
Late to the party...
...but another 5131p fan, but (controversially?) would like another mm added to the case-size. Beyond that, most anything with enamel - the more I see of that the more I just want to plunge right in... Obviously no more embossed dials
Right on time :)
There is going to be a long list for the 5131P :p I totally understand your appeal for enamel dials and especially how they are crafted by 3 Patek enamelers. I'd like to get one, one day Thanks Chim! Best, Mark PS: I would agree with your last wish
We have a lot of wishes in common :)
The 5170P, the 5227P... The 5960A with a new dial and a strap would be indeed excellent but I think the 5960 we have today will be the last one. Another vote for the Aquanaut chrono, I can't imagine they won't present it one day, especially since it is so...
My wish list of 3 PP intros this year:
1. 5166T Aquanaut 20Y anniversary automatic chronograph with no date window cased in titanium with rubber strap 2. 5990/1A with a green dial. 3. 5131P, yes consensus vote yes, but have to come full circle
My dream would be a Ti Nautilus
and I think it would be perfectly suiting an Aquanaut too. Close to zero chances but who knows, for the anniversary... Your 5990 psoposition is a surprise! Would be very original especially for Patek! We'll see if how it comes out Thanks keks, Best, Mark
My 3 wishes
OK, I will play.... 1. Replace the 215 with a new manual wind workhorse movement with tight accuracy and shock resistance. 2. Launch it as 5296S with SOLID screw down case back. 3. World Peace. Christian
An evolution in simple pieces is something interesting indeed
It is not always a question of complications when dealing with Patek Philippe and I think that the 215 will come in the next few years. It will be interesting to see the Calatrava pieces that will be unveiled with that new movement. As for the 5296A, ther...
I would like to see a 5170 with tachy scale back again
You 5930R with such dial would look very different and interesting indeed. I'm also looking forward to discover the 5930's evolutions in the future. The 5270P will be a classic, especially with a black dial. It will certainly come with it, in a matt finis...
you got it spot on......
.... about the 5270P, and about the "matte" finish, it will make all the difference. For ex 5370P is a nice watch, enamel is interesting too, but too shiny and acts like a miror with light, but imo to really appreciate a black dial, matte black absorbs li...
I must say I like the lacquered/enamel black dials a lot
but I asked myself if it would be something I could use as an everyday watch that easily (legibility, finger prints and dust on the glass, discretion...). And I think I would be like you and maybe prefer a matte finish for such use. The way the dial is de...
just imagine if we get as many
variations of black dials as we have blue dials. That would be interesting, if you take the 5271P it has a different black tone that the 5170G. The black enamel being the most mysterious, intriguing, and noble of all blacks. Its not the one i wish for the...
I think that it is good to have diversity indeed
for different use, more or less discretion, dressier etc... I think we have today the shiny lacquered (5227G, 5271P...) and enamel dials (5370P), then an average matt finishing (5170G...) and also the sunburst metallic one (5905P...). It would be nice to ...
to be precise, i had in mind..
... a black dial like the one on the 5970P. Depending on light, it goes from black to dark grey, its matte, and for a black dial, it plays quite well with light. Mark, there is an issue with how dials are made today and how they used to be made. Some of t...
I think, especially from what your wrote, that subjectivity plays a very significant role here
I think that the feeling regarding, more or less brushed, shiny sandbalsting or darker one etc... is very personal. For instance when I read your feeling about the magis i gone in the 5170 an d5270G white dial, I have the totally opposite feeling. Let me ...
about the 5270G...
... i was talking about the latest ones, not the 1st release which has fantastic dial. The idea about those dials, is how they interact with surrounding, how they play with light. The work on the brushed texture of the dial - ala 5550P and 5235G, gives a ...
