Rolex Oyster 7836 an Exposé Folded link "flush-fit"

Jan 18, 2020,12:28 PM
 


The Rolex Oyster 7836 bracelet graces many models seen between 1967 to around 1975. The 7836 adored the Explorer 1016 and the Explorer II 1655 (Freccione), a personal favorite the GMT 1675 and even the Milgauss 1019 enjoyed her company. They seem to also share many end links to include the 258,280,358 and 380. It was also used for the Tudor models which include the 7031/2 and the 7159. The Tudor Monte Carlo seems to have their specialized links which include the 282 (correction maybe it was the 382) for the early 7031.



7836 examples



78360 examples





The 7836 and 9315 runs confluent to the 7206 and 6636 bracelets were used on the Gilt era Rolex Submariner and GMT's from mid-1950's to around 1966. Use of the 7206 and 6636 started with the no crown guards like the 6542 but are mostly found from the pointed crown guard 1960 - 1963 and finishing with the round crown guard gilts 1964-1966/7. The 7206 and 6636 shared various end links to include the 64,65 for the early no crown guard BC and mostly using 58 and 80 end links for subs and gmt's.










It seem there was a divergence at the beginning of the matt dials where they split and went 9315 bracelets to the Submariners 5512,5513,1665,1680 and the 7836 went to the other sports models. In addition in the USA it was a rivet C & I bracelet which was a replacement option for the 9315 so there could be some overlap with 7836 bracelets for gilt watches but the date stamp will confirm. What we do see is many more USA rivet C & I bracelet with dates 68 and 68 and higher up to 1971. But there are also early USA rivet C & I from early 60's but less common maybe due to survivability. The Swiss made seemed to be rumored as better quality.



The question started as to what model fits the Tudor Monte Carlo 7159. To my knowledge there are a few but it seems like the most common seen for the 1970 to 1973 period was the 7836 folded links with a 282, 280 or a 380 end link (380B is a Tudor reference so maybe later). They also hand the Rolex logo on the buckle and blades. Later in the period 1974 to 1975 the Tudor logo was on the buckle with Tudor blades. But as always this is just an impression and variants are always out there.


I any case looking around a little you will find the 7836 bracelet used among several models that include

- EXPLORER ref. 1016 (ex. 1972 7836/280)
- MILGAUSS ref. 1019 (ex. 1969 7836/280)
- GMT-MASTER ref. 1675 (ex. 1969 7836/358)
- EXPLORER II ref. 1655 (Freccione) (ex. 3.2 mil 7836 / 380)


7836 generally seen with theses End Links

258 | 280 | 358 | 380 all in  20.0 mm width


So I think we have the 7836 and 9315 as one of the way to delineate the change from gilt dials to matt dials in and around 1967. So much Rolex to learn so little time. Please note this is not a complete bracelet expose just a little primer on the 7836 in relation to a question I got.

Back to the opening question about the Tudor Monte Carlo 7159 one replacement option includes 78360 with 589 end link.


Looking forward to some comments to fill in the wholes. Remember this is not an exact science just stipulations based on examples seen in the wild.


Best

Bill



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Hello Bill! Very interesting post indeed. Bracelets evolution...

 
 By: Subexplorer : May 29th, 2013-07:37
... is another interesting and Complex aspect of our favorite brand. It is specially interesting due to the fact that many vintage timepieces are found with a different bracelet because of a needed replacement during its long service with the original own... 

So many intricate parts to Vintage Rolex

 
 By: Bill : May 29th, 2013-10:48
I think having the period correct bracelet is a nice touch. It seems many like to put modern replacements for safety reasons but the charm of the original bracelet and strange sounds it makes as the bracelet hts is the case is music to my ears. You can co... 

Completely agree Bill! I die for vintage Rolex with their...

 
 By: Subexplorer : May 29th, 2013-14:12
... riveted links bracelets. I know present made Oyster bracelets are far better and stronger for daily hard use, but for looks, the riveted links have no equal, in my modest point of view. They add to a very cool vintage look and a lot of charme to an ol... 

A reference post, Bill.

 
 By: amanico : May 29th, 2013-14:05
It will help me to check if the configurations are correct, with my Vintage Rolexes. I must admit that my knoweldge on Vintage Rolex Bracelets is close to zero. Thank you! Best, Nicolas

A certain that i learn from your great knowledge. Thx for sharing

 
 By: logan : May 29th, 2013-17:53
Thank you for sharing your information with us! Best cordial regards, Logan

Just the tip of the iceberg

 
 By: Bill : May 29th, 2013-20:12
This is still lesson 101 in Rolex school. Class is not dismissed yet...... LOL. I am glad you enjoyed the info. Best Bill

I wont skip not even...

 
 By: logan : May 29th, 2013-20:51
I wont skip not even a day... I used to hate going to school but in this case present even if i have to come to class on weekend LOL Best Regards Sugianto Kosim

Thank you

 
 By: BaltimoreBrian : May 30th, 2013-17:16
Bill, Thank you for taking the time to put this up on the site. So interesting, helpful, and informative!

You are very welcome

 
 By: Bill : May 30th, 2013-17:28
I will figure a good fit for you on the end links for the 7159 and 78360 once I have a chance to test the fit. Best Bill

THANK YOU

 
 By: Mike1066 : May 31st, 2013-17:54
Bill: As always, thank you for your EXTREMELY informative posts. Your detailed studies of the intricacies of Rolex and your willingness to share your findings help to educate all of us collectors and enthusiasts on this site. You're the man! V/R Mike

There is a lot more to come

 
 By: Bill : May 31st, 2013-22:24
I have been trying to solve a question asked by a fellow member regarding the end links for a Rolex / Tudor Monte Carlo 7159. I think I am getting close to an answer for him. Best Bill

Fantastic post!

 
 By: Watcholic_id : January 18th, 2020-22:12
thanks for sharing such a thorough information. definitely will use this as a reference point for my future VR endeavours cheers