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Good points too Fricks
For the 3rd point you mentionned: I think yes a little frustration but which could turn into strong envy and appeal too iin my case for instance.
The price is just fixed by the market (the original prices were a loooong time ago and prices have skyrocketted in this sector since) and this one doesn't seem to be uncoherent but your view is perfectly understandable too. When I said it is not a financial question it is because when I compare the overall turnover for these limited editions to the brand's tunrover, it would let me think it is not significant. Just my feeling.
Thanks for sharing your interesting thoughts Fricks and maybe we have a part of subjectivity in our judgmeent: I guess we will all have our own feeling on that matter in a way we finally accept it or we don't.
Food for thoughts 
Good night!
Cheers, Mark
This message has been edited by Mark in Paris on 2015-10-13 16:00:57
Gorgeous pictures of the Patek Philippe 5070G-014 Salmon dial London limited edition
Hi everyone, I discovered several months ago the Instagram account of Khalid from PatekCollector who has a very beautiful collection and shares very fine photos of Patek Philippes watches. As this model is rare, I thought I could share his beautiful Patek...
I didn't find any.
But I must say I much prefer looking at the "live" ones compared to the ones we get in press-kits which are not very natural. And I find these ones beautiful. Cheers.
On the other hand why should they.
Totallyb20 pieces of 5070 is nothing to make a show about. Just a good way of getting rid of extra cases and movements. Plus cover a friction of the costs of London Exhibition. I am sure that we will see also some other versions in the future. The lucky o...
I follow Khalid on IG, everytime is a pain :-)
I'm not the greatest fan of the 5070 ref, but I must admit this is astonishing! Buona giornata!
Truly beautiful
So far YG 5070 is my top choice but this one could change my mind Very refined Cool and thanks mark as well as to Mr. Khalid Best D
I would never have thought a salmon dial would have pleased me that much
Of course, I should have to see it in the metal but I'm perfectly happy with these pictures! Thanks Damjan! Cheers, Mark
This is absolutely gorgeous.
The whole package:salmon dial; white gold; light honey strap. This watch is sporty and elegant at the same time. Great photos, Mark.
Very well observed Padj
The overall combination is mesmerizing. We indeed feel it can be worn for any occasions, with the same elegance each time. Cheers, Mark
a great watch from a great guy !
Khalid, I know this is not your most complicated one, not even close your collection is really VERY impressive but this 5070 is imo the most beautiful , I confess I am crazy about these chronographs when we will meet next week...... please wear this one
I know what 5070 lover you are Bruno
I imagine your reaction when you saw his first pictures from the 5070 and I hope you'll be able to hold it one day. It is nice to have important colelctors sharing their rare pieces when they can, as we have here too. We can only remind how much we apprec...
The one that got away...
...can assure you the other 4 are not in plastic. I worked hard to get one of these pieces to complement my salmon 3940...and failed miserably! It is a stunner, thanks for sharing Khalid and Mark.
I understand your appeal now that we see the pictures
But let me reassure you: you have an outstanding model with your very special 3940 Thanks for your post Chimaera. Cheers, Mark
I totally agree
And, as I said, this was not supposed to be so with a Salmon dial from my tastes, but this one is perfection to me.
My pleasure Patrick
I had the same reaction when I discovered it (and still do!) Cheers, Mark
Indeed, the color is perfectly tuned
We can't stop being appealed by new models from time to time! Cheers, Mark
So nice
A gorgeous piece Very surprised Patek would re-issue a 5070 after it's been long discontinued The lucky 5 owners must be thrilled Cheers, John
It was a surprise indeed
and a very nice one for me when I came to see good pictures. Cheers, Mark
Thank you Marknfor showing us the pictures.
I love this one a lot and I still do not know if I would have taken G or P if I had a free choise. Congrats to Mr. Khalid for the successful hunt. Best Kari
I share your feeling Kari
Considering the other references I would need to see some good pictures to tell. Maybe in the future Cheers, Mark
It really is extra ordinary. Different from what's often seen.
An elegant dial. One word to describe it - beautiful. Best Geross
Well said
It is a rare color, very well tuned and the watch remains wonderful and refined as well. Thanks Geross. Cheers, Mark
i follow that account on insta too...
.. and khaled surely deserves it, but mark do you really mean your congratulations for Patek for this series?
Interesting question Fricks: yes I do
Even if I don't think I can assess today the whole extent of their existence, I would say yes for this one (as it is the only one I have good pictures of) mainly because I think it looks fantastic. I think I could even prefer this one over a 5970R (a watc...
you should be a lawyer :)
but i will try to be the prosecutor here - You don't make a tribute 5yrs later, tributes come much later down the road. - If its a "kind of gift to their best clients", then they should do it in their salons in geneva, under the radar, and not exposing th...
And you forgot one thing: Is is good for the 5170 to be so strongly under appreciated
Compared to the new 5070 which is, well, a third higher priced... Is this a sign that Patek has more esteem for the 5070 than for the 5170? I see things like that, and I can't disagree with that, by the way. Best, Nicolas
Maitre, you are about to bite the red line...
... talking about value in this forum. But indeed you are right Nicolas, there is a clear hidden confession that the 5070 was, still is, and most probably will be, the big daddy of patek chronos. No need for our comments on this, the market is a proof of ...
I will commit heresy in the Patek forum
Same movement, platinum case, limited number produced, good pleasure on the wrist. The poor man\'s solution. But I do take pleasure in the beauty of the Patek. Best Joe ...
Everyone is welcome Joe!
And your beautiful Historiques makes no exception. Cheers, Mark
This might have been a good point but, in the mean time,
I tried to ask myself what would I have been thinking about the 5070 if for instance the 1463 had been released in a 5 pieces limited edition at a higher price that the 5070's MSRP? Would it mean this 1463 small re edition undermines the 5070? I would say...
Let me make a guess:
These watches, 4 x 5 pieces of 5070 will go to the best clients of Patek Philippe. Another issue is how they will define "best clients". Probably that is also the reason why PP has not been communicating at all about these watches. My guess is that they w...
Good points too Fricks
For the 3rd point you mentionned: I think yes a little frustration but which could turn into strong envy and appeal too iin my case for instance. The price is just fixed by the market (the original prices were a loooong time ago and prices have skyrockett...
It can be an element indeed
But I don't see it personally as a tribute, more as a "last call" from this reference.
A last call till the next opportunity to do the same thing.
When doing that once, Patek opens the door to those who think that they can do it again. It is a bit like opening the Pandora' box... Best, Nicolas
it started...
... to back fire at them. Auctions results of modern Patek are starting to seriously slow down. In french i think you say " Le chant des cygnes" ?
I think it is a little excessive to say that Patek has entered such a game
because it has launched a few 5 pieces limited editions. I think it is an unfair trial. I know other brands who play the new versions theme (dial color changes, tributes) in a much more extensive way and we don't talk about them that way. Time will tell. ...
Mark don't get me wrong...
... Those other brands, we over slashed them so hard that the moderators threatens to delete us. AP offshore, Richard mille, Hublot,... milking the cow till the last drop. As a Patek fans, those brands are almost inexistent for me, i don't care what they ...
You have strong points Fricks and they are legitimate
I just wanted to present the whole persepective for our discussion. Thanks a lot for your honest and clever opinion on that matter. It is nice to be able to talk about some touchy but interesting subjects without any problem and keeping an impartial opini...
Well, I understand your questionning but it is difficult to start saying this before it happens imho
They haven't done it in the past so let's see how they behave in the future? Cheers, Mark
This is a good point, Nicolas.
The piece is beautiful, and I am happy to see it. I am happy to see the VC with the same movement and dial color. But your point about the activities of PP and their quest for money and prestige is well-taken. Again, though, the watch is beautiful and des...
Thanks Mark and Khalid
I am not sure of the merits of such an early "tribute" but boy do I love this piece Although a regular 5070g would also suffice Julian
My pleasure Julian!
I find this 5070G "Salmon" amazing and I'm happy it was issued. Thanks for your input Cheers, Mark
Salmon dial and white metal combination are very elegant
PP WG and salmon dial as VC Pt and guilloche salmon dial Two iconic winners. Cheers, Patrickh ...
Indeed, you're also a very happy owner of this model.
Diversity is a good thing in this watchworld. Cheers Patrick. Mark
I saw it only on these pictures and I love it already too much
However, I'm nearly glad didn't see it in the metal: that way I'm not tempted! Cheers, Mark