Dr No
[Moderator Omega - Wristscan]
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A warm 'thank you', Polaris 68 . . .
. . . I understand that this is your first visitation to The Purists / PuristSPro, and perhaps you're not aware of the underlying premise of our forum: the model for behavior is the same as one would expect at a dinner party, and the moderator acts not only as a referee, but also as a host. From Nicolas's perspective, your entry to the forum was equivalent to an unknown person showing up at a dinner party and immediately issuing complaints; it would be boorish behavior at a dinner party, and is similarly viewed here. You're in a disadvantageous position because you are unknown . . . had you been a regular visitor here and established your bona fides as a collector, Nicolas's reception would likely have been more tolerant. At the very least, you could have opened by introducing yourself and posting photos of your collection before coming to your point so that Nicolas would know that you are not simply trying to create a disturbance in his forum.
I was a guest recently at a party where I didn't know the host . . . I had been invited by another guest who was familiar enough with both the host and myself that he knew that I would be a welcome addition to the party. Had I made a remark that drew the offense of the host, I would have immediately apologized and left the party if it appeared that the host was agitated by my presence, even if my remark was accidental or unintended. We all understand that neither your nor Nicolas's native language is English, but an apology, if heartfelt, transcends the boundaries of mistrust and misunderstanding. Please consider my remarks in the constructive manner that I am trying to convey . . . it is very difficult to have frank discussions over the Internet because context, tone, and inflection are non-existent, but I hope I'm making my point clearly. Cordially, Art
Polaris 68 Re-Edition: Lack of perfection?
The Tribute to Polaris is a beautiful watch (I' am waiting for a 68 model) but I am sorry to say that there are some extremely disturbing details. Decent criticism should be allowed... The 68 model was announced to come with luminous material on hands dia...
i'll look at things the bright side
When you dive, at least there is clear distinction between the hands and the dial. Maybe JLC thought along those lines, it should be seen as an updated model, not as a replica of the old model. Cheers, just my silly opinion.
You're absolutely right, this is a No Go watch
So don't go on it! I don't see the problem. The watch is not good for you, so then don't even consider it. Sorry but I don't see your point. If you're among the lucky ones who get the first Polaris 68, you may change the dial, or immediately say to your D...
nic, so it was a mistake
Was the Luminova issue a mistake on JLC's part or simply part of the design?
It was a mistake, to speak crystal clear.
But as JLC didn't want to delay the release of the first Polaris, they let the choice to the first owners to change the dial for free... And it will concern only a few Polaris. So, once again , I don't see the problem, and I'm curious to see how many owne...
I think you may be missing one important point,,,
The Polaris tribute is a watch conceived by passionate collectors and greatly appealing to collectors. I am sure that with any other model, the 'faulty' dial would not have left the manufacture doors, BUT I must say most collectors are happy it did. I am ...
a blessing in disguise
I believe AP made the same mistake on the ROO alinghi before, with the spiral shape team logo in the wrong colour, and the watch actually sold for a higher premium. I believe there's an italian in this forum holding the re-edition with the same flaw you m...
Collector or dealer?
Sorry guys, but I didn't order this watch to sell it again with profit! I am not a dealer I am a collector - price speculations are of no relevance for me! And yes, I own a collection of vintage dive watches from the 60th! @ Asimut: I am collecting watche...
The colour of the hands must be different from dial
In the Polaris of 1968 the hands were different in colour with the indexes, as You can see in the attached photo the colour of hands are identical in 68 and in tribute to polaris. JLC is simply trying to redone the indexes as it was in 68 and they made a ...
Different colours?
@ Marco Interesting point, but I am not shure about this! The watch on the picture could be restored and the luminescent material of the hands could be renewed ... Let's have a look to some more pictures: Source: click here , click here On the first pictu...
different colors, I'm quite sure
Sorry for my bad English I've seen many and many Polaris from '68, knew many owner of this incredible watch, and I'm quite sure that the color of the hands is different. A friend of mine talked wit JLC and they confirmed that. It's all, I hope this help. ...
Think of it this way ...
JLC did make a mistake. They had 2 options in solving the problem: They could hold up delivery of all Polaris until a new batch of "good" dials is available. A consequence of this would be that you would know nothing about the mistake and a few more month...
I think...
I think the dial and hands looks best with the same color - there would be no problem if the hands also was as dark as the "off color". So... Maby you can ask JLC to change the color of the hands instead of getting a new dial.....?!?
You hit the nail!
Yes, that's true and even with the new dial the colours will not match as promoted! To give the watch this very special appearance with light yellow Luminova all over (that I would like best) the dial, bezel *and* the hands have to be changed !! No questi...
So, now we got your point. But as you seem to be def, let me tell you one last time.
If you're not happy with, don't go on this not exceptional watch , your money would certainly go on much better watches, and we'll stay between us, passionate and incult watch lovers. You know, we are all ignorant about watches, here, and we all were wait...
Embarrassing arrogance
Again a very weak posting from your side! Nicolas, I know very well that I don't have to take the watch if I'm not happy with it. By the way: Isn't it an embarrassing arrogance to tell me this 10 times a day? I'm not bashing the Polaris! - Decent criticis...
With all due respect, Polaris 68, criticism is perfectly acceptable . . .
. . . and tolerated on The PuristS / PuristSPro forums; it is your approach and manner that is drawing the ire of our respected JLC forum moderator. Even granting the benefit of your unfamiliarity with the English language, my sense is that the opinions y...
Dear Dr. No, ...
I think I can understand your point of view. It was not my intension to be impolite! But besides this I am of the opinion that a moderator should be neutral and independent and should stick to facts! Ok, maybe JLC made a mistake. - We all make mistakes an...
A warm 'thank you', Polaris 68 . . .
. . . I understand that this is your first visitation to The Purists / PuristSPro, and perhaps you're not aware of the underlying premise of our forum: the model for behavior is the same as one would expect at a dinner party, and the moderator acts not on...
I must admit I expect mine to be the same as the Jaeger
Tribute to Polaris screen background : ie hands and dial with fake patinated. Just my wish and hope not to be disappointed ! cheers,
Can you explain what do you mean 'with fake patinated'?
Why not simply calling it for what it is... TINTED LUMINOVA To me using 'Fake' to describe anything issued by an original brand seems inappropriate, don't you think?
100% agreement
I would love it as well! The name of this forum is PuristsPro. A puristic opinon should be respected! Regards
We heard your opinion, but as the thread continues
a discussion has to form. You won't take anyone else's opinion but yours. I hope you find what you are looking for.
So you're a JLC Vintage Collector, Polaris 68 ?
Wow, I would be happy to see pics of your Vintage JLC Watches! Do you own a Vintage Polaris, too? I hope that you will share with us your JLC Collection! Can't wait to view them and to read you. Welcome here by the way. Patrice.
Where did you read this ?
I have read all the thread, and I did not read that Polaris 68 ever wrote he is a JLC Vintage collector, so this question seems curious. BTW, I don't see how you need to be a JLC vintage collector to be untitled to have an opinion on a watch you have orde...
Here, Clavi
jlc.watchprosite.com But you're absolutely right, it is not necessary to be a JLC Collector to have an opinion. There is actually a difference between opinion and bashing. If the debate was about non matchin or matching, why not. If the statement was: " W...
Chapeau !
Thank you for your free and independent point of view! I really hope that hands and dial will be matching in the "regular version". I must admit I still have my doubts... I found this night picture: Best regards Edited: As per forum rules, please do not p...
Pics and wrist
Hi Polaris68, I understand your frustration but hope you'll forget it soon when you'll see your watch! I was surprised by the first pics of the real watch myself, but was very happy when I put it on my wrist. Actually I'm used to seeing non-matching vinta...
I was also surprised ...
... by this pic Somehow it looks strange (at least to me), as I am so used to non-matching hands (which I prefer). I guess it just goes to show that tritiun ages differently as we can see examples of both cases (although most frequently hands don't match)...
my unbiased view as someone not buying the polaris is this
if you dont like it dont buy it.
well...
Well… I do like it And I have already paid for it – in august – this was the only way I could get this piece. I haven’t received my 1968 yet and JLC could change what ever they feel like – I still have paid for it. But as long as my AD don´t go bankrupt -...
my two pennys worth
i always thought the watch had green hands and yellowish batons on the original. i have bought one and wait in anticipation for its delivery. i'd prefer it sooner rather than later and personally would prefer a yellow/ green mix. that said, i'll just be h...