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Great artists are frequently not great people.
To the extent one views fine watches as a form of art, my opinion is that the watches be considered on their own merits. Now, if one dislikes a watchmaker becausehe won't fix problems that might arise, that is a practical consideration that might interfere legitimately.
Many great painters, sculptors, composers, and authors have reportedly been total jerks, but I won't let that stand in the
way of my enjoying their work. However, I did notice a lot of people enjoying Michael Jackson's music again publicly after he died and was no longer frequenting courtrooms.
That said, push comes to shove, though I might appreciate the watches made by a jerk, I probably wouldn't buy one. (Well, at least not while he was still alive.)
As for wonderful guys who make watches I don't like, I can say that most the
wonderful people I know in the world don't produce anything I wish to purchase. Being kind, decent, and honest is admirable, but it has little to do with whether you can produce art of any quality.
Regards,
Jon
is there a watchmaker you love everything about...
EXCEPT his watches? For me, this is Vainney halter. I love and admire everything I read about this man. I want to WANT his watches, but the designs just don't do it for me. It's a funny thing to admire a watchmaker's values, personality, courage, etc... y...
Sinn
A fairly major player. I love "practical" designs. And Sinn really strive for that "do everything" design: tegemented, lume, quartz when appropriate, reasonable size, etc. But try as I might (and I have tried- twice) they just don't do it for me.
Yes, but ...
... the LM1 swung me around. Finally an MB&F I could see myself wearing. Looking forward to more in the Legacy series. Andrew ...
Yes I can relate to that
I have one or two, VH and DB. I love their philosophy, I could not see myself wearing/ buying one of their watches. On another note, much more important in numbers are all the watch models or even brands that I do not like... No names here of course. Suff...
Ludovic Ballouard...
.... his pieces are beautiful and wholly unique. Besides, he looks kind of like a mad scientist, which sorta' fits, ya' know... Trick or Treat... or how about an Upside Down? - That's my dos centavos... - Scott ...
psm
Speake Marin. By all accounts a wonderful guy with a unique style and perspective but the watches just don't do it for me.
There are many...
with an amazing watchmaker and cool designs too... but the watches are just not for me for one reason! I would love to own a VH, VB and many others, but after wearing bigger watches for such a long time, I find their watches too small on my wrist. If they...
Not for me...watches reflect the creativity and spirit of the Independent watchmaker
I understand that there will always be some aspect of all watch makers creativity, personality and productivity that we like and dislike...but to me...their watches should reflect the totality of these processes. In Andrews case..he expresses his liking o...
That's a great point of view Horogasm
Maybe I was looking for this exact sort of reflection on this. Well, I was just thinking about the fascinating watchmakers of our time... and shrug.. the question arose in my mind. Thanks for all replies!
Independent Makers
Horo....thanks for the thought, and well, may not agree fully, but truly respect your opinion For me, it actually involves many factors.....jus like running our biz, and dealing w customers.... Some can become very good friends, and some jus as customers,...
No... so far...
.. I don't name the name, but I just don't like the watches by those who I don't like. Simple. Ken
not so simple - reconsider
the circumstances under which you took a dislike to this brand or person. After all, the feelings at the time may have been mutual! Whatever the reasons, a watch is still a watch - even a great watch. A fleeting negative impression, say a "slight," as per...
No...
.. so far, my first impression has been correct or consistent or stable and has never turned into a lasting friendship. Sorry. Bad persons (to me) always give me bad first impression. Bad persons never turn into good persons. (here, I am talking in genera...
Very true Ken
I had an experience a couple of years ago when I really wanted a watch and even chose the model I was going to buy... but then met the person behind the company who was the rudest person ever, not just to me but to his staff as well. I had the money ready...
wow you sound pretty wound up :-( However I do agree with you with independents or any
brand I buy as much the people as the watch itself. And if I don't like the person the watches no matter how beautiful will not appeal to me Just to give an example, about 6-7 years ago I had an extremely bad contact with a representative of a large brand...
I am absolutely the same...
my appreciation of watches is totally tied to my appreciation of the people behind. If I have the feeling that I do not get treated in a respectful manner I quickly lose interest, and eventually sell the watches of the respective brand/maker. But so far I...
time has that effect and
.... of course the love for beautiful watches... however I have never sold a watch on the basis of not liking someone! Well yet... With bigger brands you always come across people who can rub you up the wrong way but then they move on from the big machine...
There is a very simple answer for all of you ...
Move to Australia! You are very unlikely to meet any watchmakers and can appreciate the watches, unclouded by personalities (except what comes through in the watch design and execution) and preconceptions from anecdotes and internet stories. :-) While I a...
Another experience...
Years ago, I purchased an independent watch from a relatively (at the time) unknown watchmaker based entirely upon the look/style. I liked the watch a lot, but after having a chance to share an evening and many glasses of wine with the watchmaker, my appr...
Great artists are frequently not great people.
To the extent one views fine watches as a form of art, my opinion is that the watches be considered on their own merits. Now, if one dislikes a watchmaker becausehe won't fix problems that might arise, that is a practical consideration that might interfer...
hey wait a minute
Somehow this thread 'deteriorated' into (possibly) not liking the watchmaker. I started it by asking if there is a watchmaker that you LOVE everything about... except his watches? Is this a strange example of human nature flipping a subject around? Oh wel...