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How sad that most here only see the world through an octagonal steel lens
Apr 28, 2021,01:08 AM
I’m new to AP from an owners/collecting standpoint, but I’m a seasoned collector. I’ve been fortunate to actually handle and try on this new AP Concept watch (note the word Concept) and whilst it’s not something I would personally buy or actually wear it is something I can appreciate for it on a technical level and for the overall workmanship that’s gone into making it.
This isn’t something done on the mere whim of a loose cannon but something that’s been years in the planning and obviously fully sanctioned by the board on which, among others, sits AP family members. Unlike the references to Thierry Natal and the disastrous Zenith Defy Extreme’s (born out of the mid 2000’s hideous excesses) this isn’t a regular production line but a special edition of just 250 pieces of which HK’s allocation over sold considerably within the first day of its exhibition.
AP is known for being avant garde, which is why the Royal Oak even came to be, so I think many are being far too harsh to judge this the way they are and instead of seeing the bigger picture have a very narrow octagonal view, and my first AP is in fact a C11.59!
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AP Marvel Watch - Truly an abomination (IMHO)
By: Hackworth : April 11th, 2021-07:25
Was invited by Shanghai AP to their AP x Marvel launch event & party and got a chance to see the watch in the flesh (steel?), and I have to say AP may have f*cked up big time on this one. The Marvel partnership seems strange and literally "cartoony". ...
Thanks for the live photo.
By: MichaelC : April 11th, 2021-07:51
I have now owned and enjoyed AP over 20 years. The brand has done many daring things over that period, and this collaboration is the latest. I have 0 interest in comic related things, but am not offended with this creation at all. Does not diminish the br...
I agree Michael 100%
By: Hackworth : April 11th, 2021-08:01
I think it's one thing to vent about negative feelings about this collaboration - but to "dump" the brand is definitely over-reactionary. The Marvel partnership as a one-off thing will not hurt the brand in any way. However if they continue making poor ch...
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By: pfang56 : April 11th, 2021-08:28
Nt
Hear hear.
By: Rosneathian : April 11th, 2021-14:25
We all tend to be...
By: Ed Watches : April 12th, 2021-04:31
overly defensive of the brands we like. I am not “offended” by this Marvel watch and it hasn’t changed my opinion about the APs I own and love either. But let’s face it: the watch is awful and so is the overall concept of this cartoon collab. It’s short t...
thanks
By: patrickh : April 11th, 2021-08:07
with this live photo, definitely not for me. A watch seen IRL makes ALWAYS the difference.
agreed
By: Hackworth : April 11th, 2021-21:15
Not for me..
By: amg786w : April 11th, 2021-08:35
but if you like why not. I'm sure it'll be impeccably finished and key details will look sublime under a loupe but these collabs have a hint of naff about them at times. Anyone else think the same?
I have honestly reserved judgement for this watch...
By: K-Lo : April 11th, 2021-08:36
I looked at it, thought about it, and look at it again. Couple of interesting things to note.. Since the Black Panther actor Chadwick Bosemen (apologies if I incorrectly spelled this) recently passed away, that may greater pique the interest in a watch of...
Not a watch for me
By: marcobermann : April 11th, 2021-09:01
But then neither are most other AP's as I have no history with a Boutique or AP AD my chances of getting any regular Royal Oak's or even the Off Shores at retail within the next decade are virtually non existent. I may be be able to get a Code 11:59 or so...
Sure, a balance of demographic/audiences doesn't hurt
By: Hackworth : April 11th, 2021-21:15
But too much appeal and relevance to rappers and hiphop over time may turn off other audiences. AP will definitely gain some new fans (as well as off-put some existing ones) with peices like this
It's a bold piece - but does it have a global audience?
By: pfang56 : April 11th, 2021-08:55
I was pretty surprised that the Black Panther watch auction winner was based in China. I don't recall Black Panther being that popular or successful in the China box office, so do you think this model will be interesting for collectors in China or anywher...
Speechless
By: piccolochimico (aka dsgalaxy1) : April 11th, 2021-09:40
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Well done
By: piccolochimico (aka dsgalaxy1) : April 11th, 2021-15:42
I think whats going through peoples minds is total confusion...
By: Tony-GB : April 11th, 2021-10:20
...as AP are considered part of the "Holy Trinity". Being part of that elite group, it's fair enough to ask "would Patek/Vacheron collaborate with Marvel...?" and I suspect we'd all suggest not. Citizen has made a fantastic Marvel collaboration as we woul...
Hahahahaha!!
By: MTR : April 11th, 2021-13:35
I hope, you meant a huge ... ego?? 😎 Cheers 🥂 Thomas
ROFL!
By: amanico : April 11th, 2021-13:47
I really like this watch. Here's why:
By: Rosneathian : April 11th, 2021-14:10
1. It mashes together two stand-out pieces of modern culture 2. It upsets conservatives just as Gerald Genta did in the 1970s when he designed the Royal Oak 3. It does what GG did again in the 1980s when he put Micky Mouse, the Pink Panther and Popeye on ...
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I enjoyed reading your post :)
By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : April 11th, 2021-18:36
I'm not an AP die hard fan and won't be able to speak up on how AP fans will react etc. And not that I can easily buy this watch too so my comments won't mean much. For me, this watch does not appeal to me design wise. I do feel the Marvel collab is not a...
I won't go so far
By: benlee338 : April 11th, 2021-18:39
to call it an "abomination". But yes, I don't like it and I think AP made a big mistake. It's a very well made but ugly like hell watch, and how can anyone at AP not noticed that the hands, especially when they are aligned 24 times in a day, strongly rese...
Really?
By: benlee338 : April 11th, 2021-19:27
LOL... so the brand on the dial does not matter to you at all? That's a first for me. Of course I am speaking for myself. You sound so defensive. Perhaps not to you but if this is not a "F-U" to most collectors, how you explain the overwhelming negative c...
Yes, really - the brand on the dial does not matter to me.
By: MichaelC : April 12th, 2021-05:31
I buy watches I like for me. Not to impress anyone or be in a club with others. And I was buying this brand long before the current craze. You stated: "When we buy into a brand like AP, it's not purely just for the watch itself but also the brand image". ...
Buying a ‘brand’
By: Ed Watches : April 12th, 2021-07:47
doesn’t necessarily mean you want to ‘belong in a club’ or ‘impress others’. Besides liking the watch (of course!), it can mean you trust the brand, both technically and, why not, that you align with its design language. Imho, if AP keeps the current appr...
I hear you gents...
By: Ed Watches : April 12th, 2021-13:05
and I of course respect that view. But caring for the brand and the overall design language of the brand do NOT equal to just ‘caring for what other people think’ or ‘wanting to belong to a club’. I do care about the brand’s overall design preferences reg...
Also per interview with FHB...next release of Marvel model in 2024?!?
By: pfang56 : April 12th, 2021-06:33
If the interview is right, they are timing releases with the origin stories, next in 2024. If true, that is a very very long cycle until the next model come out. Maybe cooler heads will prevail and we will see the long term impact of this collaboration? A...
It's a gutsy move, I'll give 'em that!
By: JToddH : April 12th, 2021-17:56
Looking into my crystal ball, AP will have the last laugh, along with all the purchasers. Remember the early Daytonas that were a flop? Who's laughing now?
Commercial success is a different matter
By: chintu : April 13th, 2021-18:54
I do not believe that commercial success of a model should be equated to horological excellence. Many models can have astounding sales due to ambush-marketing coupled with short term trends. But they lose their relevance over time and have limited nostali...
How I wish they did something sensible
By: chintu : April 13th, 2021-07:52
.. AP could have demonstrated their serious horological strengths by way of a true collectors’ dream machine, in the light of some scintillating offerings from Patek ( 5236); Lange ( Lange 1 perpetual; Triple Split); Chopard ( Quattro Spirit 25); Vacheron...
How sad that most here only see the world through an octagonal steel lens
By: hub6152 : April 28th, 2021-01:08
I’m new to AP from an owners/collecting standpoint, but I’m a seasoned collector. I’ve been fortunate to actually handle and try on this new AP Concept watch (note the word Concept) and whilst it’s not something I would personally buy or actually wear it ...
Your point of view is understandable
By: chintu : April 28th, 2021-05:05
“Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder”, they say. And so it is ; and hence subjective. One important aspect though is the viewpoint of the great majority of AP collectors + fans who have strongly expressed their sentiment against this particular offering...