Why Not? Tudor Black Bay 58 PuristSPro Edition

Mar 23, 2018,17:49 PM
 

Two little tweaks made to the new Black Bay 58 and it becomes a perfect Tudor heritage diving watch.  I mean it's a damn nice original to start with as Nico said in his thread (39mm x 11.9mm case, beveled lugs, gilt writing everywhere).  The addition of the Tudor rose and the red writing complementing the red triangle just makes it spectacular, don't you think?


Who's with me on this besides Nicolas and Echi?  I have to think there's at minimum 50 of us who would buy this concept version.

And now, who has a contact at Rolex/Tudor to help sponsor the watch?


Original pic from Tudor website and then tweaked for rose logo and red writing





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Always a good advice Nico👌 [nt]

 
 By: Gelato Monster : March 23rd, 2018-18:22
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Too kind. [nt]

 
 By: amanico : March 23rd, 2018-18:27
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+1

 
 By: Harry2 : March 23rd, 2018-20:24
A man of serious taste, as usual I’d be in
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What if

 
 By: Gelato Monster : March 25th, 2018-04:04
We add full minute/second military ring like 5517?
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Is there a vintage Tudor Sub that had the full minute markers on the bezel?

 
 By: Joepny : March 25th, 2018-07:34
I don’t know vintage Tudor subs 792x that well. You other PuristS definitely know more than me. I think the 15-minute markings on the bezel has been standard with Tudor vintage for a long time though, so it makes sense the way it is with the Black Bay 58 ... 
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No marking would be very clean

 
 By: Gelato Monster : March 25th, 2018-15:47
Perfect
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No lollipop unless it gets Mercedes hour hand

 
 By: Arie - Mr Orange : March 26th, 2018-12:07
But why change this hand lay out? IMO it should be left the way it is.
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The Black Bay is a strange mix-match

 
 By: Joepny : March 26th, 2018-12:49
I think the circular hour markers are taken from the 1950's Tudor submariners which were using parts from Rolex and those also used the Rolex Mercedes hour hand/lollipop seconds hands for the most part. There was an exception with pencil hands. The snowfl... 
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The snowflake hands are a good design call.

 
 By: Arie - Mr Orange : March 26th, 2018-12:55
And just like you said the snowflakes will be the big brand identifier clearly separating it from Rolex.
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Oh Thank You!

 
 By: patrick_y : April 4th, 2018-01:34
I suggested the Mercedes hour hand and lollipop second hand too! The standard "pencil" hands will work with the lollipop second hand. But the snowflake hour hand won't work with the lollipop second hand.
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I back up this suggestion Nico!

 
 By: renerod : April 2nd, 2018-06:20
It would look stunning! Cheers! René
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Remember this one for the Italian market ? Please try again ❤

 
 By: M@ster : March 23rd, 2018-19:46
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yes the Orologi & Passioni one

 
 By: Joepny : March 24th, 2018-03:58
I liked it. I’m not Italian though and Tudor has no great legacy in Italy so the wording in Italian is a novelty.
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Hi M@ster. Please check your PM! [nt]

 
 By: ChristianDK : April 2nd, 2018-05:21
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That's nice!

 
 By: patrick_y : April 4th, 2018-01:35
But we need to do something different! And I'm dying for the lollipop second hand, which looks better with a hand that isn't the snowflake hour hand.
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I guess having a curved script on the bottom..

 
 By: Echi : March 23rd, 2018-19:48
A la “self winding” won’t make sense on this iteration. I find that touch particularly romantic along with the rose
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there is the original Tudor rose logo inside the shield

 
 By: Joepny : March 24th, 2018-04:08
I don’t think Tudor has ever printed it again in modern times. this would be even cooler. ...  
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That font!

 
 By: Echi : March 24th, 2018-05:08
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That would perfect . [nt]

 
 By: Steve58 : April 14th, 2018-01:25
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I'm in [nt]

 
 By: emcquillan : March 23rd, 2018-19:57
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Count me in! [nt]

 
 By: jonrus : March 23rd, 2018-22:18
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Awesome idea.

 
 By: Rhyzen : March 23rd, 2018-22:20
I'm definitely in if this comes true.
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my fav release this bw

 
 By: keks : March 23rd, 2018-22:38
well... for a PuristS edition I would definitely be in!
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Looks great to me. I’d love one. [nt]

 
 By: maxfcc1 : March 24th, 2018-00:37
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Yes and no

 
 By: Bruno.M1 : March 24th, 2018-00:44
without the rose They must keep this for the eta movements, keep this unique for these pieces Give these eta rose pieces the chance to get special and collectible overtime That aside.... I’m interested On the other hand... I wish Tudor would not accept al... 
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well I think Tudor’s revitalization started about 6-7? years ago

 
 By: Joepny : March 24th, 2018-04:30
It has not been long that Tudor came back to the world with very good modern watches. So I think all these “special edition” watches with retailers & enthusiast communities have been part of their strategy to build their business. I am sure it will become... 
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Actually

 
 By: FlyingSnoopy : March 24th, 2018-08:21
Isn’ There a black bay edition for harrods?
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yes

 
 By: Joepny : March 24th, 2018-10:07
there was Harrod’s green bezel one. Bucherer had the blue bezel bronze case. I am really surprised that there was no special version in North America with any of the big Tudor ADs here. perhaps there was and it was not publicized.
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Kinda share your sentiment on special editions...

 
 By: Mr.Gatsby : March 25th, 2018-09:03
Shouldn’t create too many of them. Doesn’t make any sense. But in this instance if they really make one.....I’m in !!
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Why not?

 
 By: VMM : March 24th, 2018-02:49
Love the extra red on the dial, I think it looks much better than the original. I really like the original, but I'm not sure if I would buy it, let's wait to se how it feels on my wrist. I guess if it could be made Á la carte, we could end up with a very ... 
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the Tudor website has a watch design feature but it is not truly customization

 
 By: Joepny : March 24th, 2018-04:35
i would not be surprised if they allowed more customization in 4-5 years. it would fit with the type of offerings that Tudor has made for the last few years already: variety on bezel & strap/bracelet. the next step is to allow buyers the ability to tweak ... 
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Great idea, count me in [nt]

 
 By: ambel : March 24th, 2018-03:49
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Definitely, I’m up for this...

 
 By: Cpt Scarlet : March 24th, 2018-03:55
Great idea. Hope that Tudor wants to play ball. Can we have it on a bracelet and NATO band that reflects the special edition.
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If anyone knows Monsieur Eric Pirson, CEO Tudor, or someone else at Tudor management

 
 By: Joepny : March 24th, 2018-04:21
we need a sponsor there to get this project started!!! 🙏🤞
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If it’s of any help...

 
 By: Cpt Scarlet : March 24th, 2018-04:41
I will order more than one if we don’t reach the total needed to make the project happen.
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Savy Collector Cpt [nt]

 
 By: Gelato Monster : March 24th, 2018-04:46
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For the greater good ...

 
 By: Cpt Scarlet : March 24th, 2018-04:51
Not for personal gain. That’s my code.
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Good man! 😁

 
 By: Joepny : March 24th, 2018-06:45
I have ideas to prevent behavior that is not truly long-term passion for a special project watch. I remember the Vacheron Hodinkee chronograph made 1 year ago that was ludicrously flipped by 4 buyers after about 3 months; that was out of like 35 total wat... 
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I like this idea .

 
 By: Steve58 : April 14th, 2018-01:29
I believe the 1st year warranty idea is solid
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If the watch fund allows and the group allows

 
 By: Gelato Monster : March 24th, 2018-11:37
It would be very very nice to purchase more than one of such limited edition to be passed on or gifted to family or the closest of friends.
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Cool, that would be fantastic!

 
 By: Joepny : March 24th, 2018-12:27
I typically think when you have a wait-list and there's a queue of people who say they want something, you have to expect that 10-20% will change their minds for some reason. If we have 60 people on PuristSPro who say that they want to buy this special co... 
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Would love this....

 
 By: chris7509 : March 24th, 2018-04:42
It would look really nice .... I am interested +1 !!!
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Hehe...I think it will be a good list of special requests 😉

 
 By: Joepny : March 24th, 2018-06:50
The first big steps are to get PuristSPro management (Bill, Anthony, MTF, ThomasM) to green light the project. Then perhaps find a PuristSPro moderator with Tudor knowledge (Nicolas or Miranda or Baron or DrStrong) who can manage the project. Then finding... 
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Iam all game ...why not ask for ghost bezel showing age and patina ?

 
 By: Horology75 : March 24th, 2018-06:24
And then we could have purist etching at the back .
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I think Nicolas asked for that too

 
 By: Joepny : March 24th, 2018-06:54
The wish list grows: -Tudor rose logo on dial -red writing for 200m:660ft text -faded/ghost bezel -red seconds hand -lollipop seconds hand -drilled lugs -special PuristSPro engraving on caseback
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Yes! [nt]

 
 By: FlyingSnoopy : March 24th, 2018-08:23
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see picture attached

 
 By: ambel : March 24th, 2018-09:45
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I am in for the BB58

 
 By: Karlisnet : April 1st, 2018-07:14
👌
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yes I remember the Only Watch unique piece

 
 By: Joepny : March 24th, 2018-10:11
Crazy price! I think it will be very difficult to convince Tudor to do anything that gets close to that unique piece. I bet Tudor wants to keep that unique piece design separate. Like the lollipop seconds hand that a few members have on the wish list, I t... 
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Please no lollipop !! [nt]

 
 By: Steve58 : April 14th, 2018-01:32
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I'm in! [nt]

 
 By: fourtaelsgold : March 24th, 2018-10:13
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We have 20 PuristS expressed interest. We need more!

 
 By: Joepny : March 24th, 2018-10:26
PuristSPro management and Tudor management will not be convinced by 20 guys. I’m pretty sure that is a cold hard fact. We really need 60-70 people with serious interest. Updated wish list: -Tudor rose logo on dial -red writing for 200m:660ft text -faded/g... 
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I'd buy one

 
 By: matto1 : March 24th, 2018-10:48
With red text line👍
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Fantastic! We need a big base of passionate, real people who want to own a special watch long-term

 
 By: Joepny : March 24th, 2018-12:23
That'll help convince the people in power that this project is worth it
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5517 Milspec full ring marking

 
 By: Gelato Monster : March 25th, 2018-04:07
Instead of 12-3 quarter marking
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The faded bezel could perhaps be a dark grey [nt]

 
 By: Steve58 : April 14th, 2018-01:33
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I am in [nt]

 
 By: germane : March 24th, 2018-12:30
No message body
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Joe, hopefully Mr Kelly responds on the IG post.

 
 By: Jay (Eire) : March 24th, 2018-16:59
And is hopefully following here now too. It's a great idea, thanks for taking the initiative. Finally as I said on IG, I'm in too!
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thanks Jay! great that you knew his IG account

 
 By: Joepny : March 24th, 2018-18:07
I heard a podcast from Dean Delray when Russell Kelly was interviewed. So I was going to hit up Dean Delray’s IG account to see if he could help get in touch with Tudor management before I saw your post. Let’s make this dream into reality!
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+1

 
 By: DonQuijones : March 24th, 2018-19:20
I've been watching from the sidelines for a while. Naturally my first post has to be in support of this quixotic idea!
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thanks for your vote and we need more “lurkers” to join the party!

 
 By: Joepny : March 24th, 2018-20:43
It’s an uphill battle, this pipe dream of ours. But a dream shared by many starts to feel like something possible in real life!
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I think I could use one. :-)

 
 By: SRG : March 24th, 2018-20:49
39mm seems like a great size.
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Ok guys I’m in for this [nt]

 
 By: Maltie : March 25th, 2018-08:39
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I'm in too!

 
 By: jpd : March 25th, 2018-08:41
preferably with a bezel slightly fading to grey (as Nico had mentioned) and a lollipop second hand would also be great... But ne that as it may: count me in on this please! Best, Jan
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Don’t needle to tell you that I’d be in :P

 
 By: willski : March 25th, 2018-09:02
Cool watch would be even better!
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:D That birthday watch for your newborn last year has really gotten you into Rolex & Tudor!

 
 By: Joepny : March 25th, 2018-09:21
We both have to work on Padj and convince him to go from handmade watches to the humble goodness of Tudor!
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Haha yes.

 
 By: willski : March 25th, 2018-09:54
We will get padj on board The durability and practicality of Rolex is appealing me at this stage... ...  
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Adorable!

 
 By: Joepny : March 25th, 2018-10:03
Obviously you'll need the new Pepsi GMT for yourself since the Batman is for your son.
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Haha yes or vica versa.

 
 By: willski : March 25th, 2018-10:17
The new two tone is also nice! Feels weird that I’ve (regained) strong feelings for modern Rolex... 🤔
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Why not a red rose? [nt]

 
 By: TheMadDruid : March 25th, 2018-09:28
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Great idea!

 
 By: Joepny : March 25th, 2018-09:49
I just wish I had skills on PhotoShop to make up a picture with a red rose. It would look awesome. Ross Povey, a big Tudor collector and writer (he writes for Revolution Watch magazine) found a special Tudor made for the London Metropolitan Police unit th...  
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A rough picture - red Tudor rose

 
 By: Joepny : March 25th, 2018-10:01
...  
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What do you have agains the House of York?

 
 By: Ares501 - Mr Green : March 27th, 2018-13:19
;-)
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What do you have against the house of Stark? [nt]

 
 By: zabreg1 Mr White : March 28th, 2018-09:13
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I'm Green Lantern [nt]

 
 By: Ares501 - Mr Green : March 28th, 2018-10:05
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Nice ! [nt]

 
 By: Steve58 : April 14th, 2018-01:35
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Thanks everyone for joining the dream...we're at around 30 people

 
 By: Joepny : March 25th, 2018-09:36
and maybe a few have friends/families so our real potential watch buying power is higher. We need to keep on growing. Sure it's a very long shot, but why not dream? So, we're trying to see if Mr. Russell Kelly, head of Tudor Watch USA, will read this thre... 
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I'm in but I have a more "radical" design

 
 By: reintitan : March 25th, 2018-11:16
which I don't think Tudor will go for: Change the circular hour markers into square hour markers for a full Snowflake dial and hands.
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I think the square markers are reserved for the Pelagos

 
 By: Joepny : March 25th, 2018-12:14
The Black Bay line is honoring the Tudor Submariners from the 1950’s which I think all used the circle markers.
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Good idea!

 
 By: Arie - Mr Orange : March 25th, 2018-11:24
I guess I would be in.
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Great idea. Interested for sure. [nt]

 
 By: cea : March 25th, 2018-12:02
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Awesome idea! Count me in!:) [nt]

 
 By: Daniel_Eira : March 25th, 2018-16:38
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Yes!

 
 By: Plexi : March 25th, 2018-21:13
I'm in🥁👍🏻
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Pls count me in.

 
 By: Seeks : March 26th, 2018-06:46
Great ideas for the changes / improvements ! Many thanks
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Great idea!

 
 By: Fantasio : March 26th, 2018-09:56
First render looks best to me, I hope the amount of changes won't get out of hand.
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YESSSSSSSSSS!

 
 By: Joepny : March 26th, 2018-10:28
Imran, please tell me you're talking to Tudor about it. We have about 40 PuristS who have signed up with interest for this watch concept after 3 days. Some are willing to buy more than 1 watch for friends/family. I know BaselWorld is still going on and th... 
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I'll be in too if it's not the bracelet version :) [nt]

 
 By: AnthonyTsai : March 26th, 2018-11:08
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I would love a rubber bracelet option like the JLC Extreme Lab 2

 
 By: Joepny : March 26th, 2018-11:17
or the PP Aquanaut. In golden brown. I’m not really convinced by the Tudor NATO strap design, could live without it.
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Now you have all my attention. ;) [nt]

 
 By: amanico : March 26th, 2018-11:26
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:O Now we're talking! [nt]

 
 By: Thevenin : March 26th, 2018-11:27
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If pencil hands confirmed - I am in...

 
 By: chronos-lorien : March 27th, 2018-02:44
I think this is a matter of proper communication with Tudor. The pencil hands (like on the Only Watch ed) should not be a problem for the manufacturer to be installed on small series (at least technically). Lets try!
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I’m sure making pencil hands in itself for Tudor is not a problem

 
 By: Joepny : March 27th, 2018-04:44
The bigger challenge is their Tudor design code and what image they will allow any of their production watches to have and how it impacts assembly of the watch, even if for a small special order. If you look at all the special Black Bay watches that were ... 
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I’m in too!

 
 By: cfn : March 28th, 2018-07:11
I would love to own such a watch, if possible. I am a recent convert to Tudor after having purchased a Black Bay Bronze Blue here in Copenhagen. Claus
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Any further news on this project ? [nt]

 
 By: Cpt Scarlet : March 27th, 2018-06:19
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No, it is still early

 
 By: Joepny : March 27th, 2018-06:49
BaselWorld is just officially ending today March 27. I have not heard from Tudor officially, but it is probably because they are focused on BaselWorld. So I guess the Tudor managers will want to have a recovery period after BaselWorld and then perhaps we ... 
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I can’t believe …

 
 By: Cpt Scarlet : March 27th, 2018-10:47
the great people at Tudor have anything better to do with their time than to help us with our mission for perfection.
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turnover is turnover

 
 By: Arie - Mr Orange : March 27th, 2018-13:13
so no, they do not have anything better to do 😉
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Tudor BB58

 
 By: paguiarneto : March 27th, 2018-11:56
I would be all in for this Tudor!
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Yes please

 
 By: Sug : March 27th, 2018-18:32
This watch with the rose on the dial? Me ready to pay up now. Count me in.
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I’m in!

 
 By: Questlove : March 27th, 2018-19:58
This would be dream come true!
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Tudor Black Bay 58 PuristSPro Edition - I'm in! [nt]

 
 By: lightspirex : March 27th, 2018-20:59
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count me in! [nt]

 
 By: halkcb : March 27th, 2018-21:25
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That Red Rose idea is a great one! I'm in :) [nt]

 
 By: YpJ : March 28th, 2018-10:14
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What if there is no gilt, bronze, red or any suggestive colour???

 
 By: Mary Anny : March 29th, 2018-01:14
I would buy something like that straightaway. It would remind me so much my father's 5508 it was stolen from me many years ago! Size, lungs, bracelet! Tudor often broadens watch lines! Sorry, my idea goes in a completely different direction. ...  
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A sort of monochromatic one

 
 By: Joepny : March 29th, 2018-05:23
Well, it might be too subdued for most. But you never know what Tudor will do in the future. I think Tudor will make other commercial versions of the BB58 over the next year after the first release will be out in July. It makes sense for their business wh... 
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No gold finishing touches

 
 By: Mary Anny : April 6th, 2018-07:47
Another rendering with no gilt, no red, no gold! ...  
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Last one only black, silver, and white

 
 By: Mary Anny : April 9th, 2018-03:53
A Black Bay 39mm so reminiscent of old Submariners with no crown guards. ...  
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Make sure you keep up-to-date with Miranda’s Tudor post

 
 By: Joepny : April 9th, 2018-06:08
His will be the official one for this PuristSPro Black Bay 58 project.
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My apologies!

 
 By: Mary Anny : April 11th, 2018-05:01
Sorry, did not know where to post te idea!
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Count me in!

 
 By: Nicetomeetyou : August 11th, 2018-19:57
I hope this happens
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I have never owned or even seen a Tudor watch in real life.

 
 By: Costa (aka Connie) : March 29th, 2018-04:16
I like the idea. I would be in on this deal. I think it would be a good way to be introduced to the brand.
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Im in for the ppro edition [nt]

 
 By: quatuor27 : April 1st, 2018-02:28
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warning

 
 By: alexxelor : April 1st, 2018-05:44
i share , great idea , i want one . 58 it's the best tudor watch . i really hope so... we don't make the same mistake as others special edition group . to be special , our watch will have different references from the original model , like the special edi... 
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I'm in...

 
 By: SamiAm : April 2nd, 2018-21:10
Praying for superdome, Mercedes hour hand & lollipop second hand!!!
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Great idea athough i am a indie type of guy

 
 By: Watchonthewrists : April 14th, 2018-01:45
I am in 🙋🏻‍♂️
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thanks!

 
 By: Joepny : April 15th, 2018-12:33
Make sure you respond also to Miranda’s (aka Imran) post in the Rolex forum 2 weeks ago. His will be the official one.
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Count me in for the limited edition for Purists! [nt]

 
 By: mustafadurrani : April 15th, 2018-10:45
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I would love to see this one !

 
 By: M@ster : May 21st, 2018-13:42
Beautiful blue and orange text ! 😍😍😍 Ps this is a black one but the light has made it blue-ish with orange writings ! If we can go in a different color please count me in please. ...  
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definitely a yes!! [nt]

 
 By: Watcholic_id : July 4th, 2018-06:28
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Let Miranda (aka Imran) know

 
 By: Joepny : July 4th, 2018-07:15
He is the moderator who will try to get Tudor’s acceptance. He created a thread also. Or maybe PM him if he’s keeping a list. I know that we had at least 50 PuristS members who have expressed interest. The more firm commitments we have will make it more p... 
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You’ve got Bob hope and No hope

 
 By: Miles_151 : July 4th, 2018-07:04
But I’d definitely be down for one if a miracle happens. Looks great. M.
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😅 I know, it’s a slim chance at best...

 
 By: Joepny : July 4th, 2018-07:16
Anyway, let Miranda know of your interest. He is the moderator who will try to get Tudor’s acceptance. He created a thread also. Or maybe PM him if he’s keeping a list. I know that we had at least 50 PuristS members who have expressed interest. The more f... 
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Count me in for the Purists edition. [nt]

 
 By: eyyeo : January 11th, 2019-19:59
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