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5512- 5513, how do you like them?
Deep and glossy Black?
4 or 2 lines? Chapter ring or not? Pointed Crownguards?
With some extra features such as an underline or exclamation dot?
Black or brown? Brow or Caramel? Caramel or Tiger?
Brown with a double signature, such as this SYL taken in picture by Marlon?
Caramel ( Credit picture: Brevetwatches ) :
Tiger ( Credit picture: Jacek ) :
Or almost Khaki? ( Credit picture: Zaf ) :
Or do you prefer them with a Matte Dial?
" Normal " or Military?
If military, English or French ( 5517 Milsub versus 5513 MN ) ?
Simple or sophisticated, rugged or not, in what condition?
Tell us all!
Best
Nicolas
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5512- 5513, how do you like them?
Deep and glossy Black? 4 or 2 lines? Chapter ring or not? Pointed Crownguards? With some extra features such as an underline or exclamation dot? Black or brown? Brow or Caramel? Caramel or Tiger? Brown with a double signature, such as this SYL taken in pi...
WOW
Jeff - that is amazing. I have never seen that before. What a rare and beautiful watch. Enjoy it! Best, -Mike
I am not sure this is a good idea to have opened this thread... ;)
I am feeling the contamination over my head... ;) Best, Nicolas
Gilt and glossy 2 and 4
Chapter and non chapter Swiss only and Swiss t I love them all. Bill ...
Oh No....
... This is not good. This thread is going to short circuit my computer as I drool on my keyboard! HAHA! I prefer a 4 line, glossy gilt, non-chapter ring. The one Bill posted is an absolute stunner. That is my Sub grail. But all these old subs are complet...
For the moment, I own only one, the 5513 M.N.
Which is not bad, I agree. But once I end my GMT theme, I will attack the Subs... And will try to get one or two others. The question being... Which one ( or two? ) ? Best, Mike. Nicolas
Keep looking at this one
Bill, That 5512 is just so great, as is Ken's. The contrast in color in the script on the dial is just too cool. Enjoy it!! V/R Mike
I have my eye out for you...
It is hard to get any thing that is not in the upper limits as I described to you... But I know with patience you will get what you are looking for. Best Bill
I've always loved the Maxi Mk1 5513.......
I remember the feeling when I picked mine up - I had looked for one for a while and when I was offered this one from a well known collector, I jumped at the chance. For me, I can get the different 'feels' from this watch..... 'Italian' style on leather st...
You can't die. It is Easter Time! :)))
I am pretty sure that you will soon bury us with some terrific specimens. I know my Baron! ;) All the best, my friend. Nicolas
5512 glossy chapter ring, two lines,
from 1959 /1960 (PCG as it should be) it is the nicest in my opinion, a perfect combination: classy and simplicity. Kind regrads Fancisco
He He, Francis.
I think that for my frist one, I would go for that combination, too. Then, I would opt for a brwon caramel one,. Or a Tiger, but the fundamentals first! Best, Nicolas
The 5512/5513
I have to say, these are two references that I miss. As you know. And, as you know, these are two references that I am looking at very closely, because it is a BIG hole in the collection. What can i say other than the 5512/5513 represents an iconic refere...
Well Baron....
I have seen a couple of 'Tweets' from a prominent London dealer who has just about the nicest 5512 matte and a gilt 5513 I've ever seen ;-) Ross
Can't wait to take some side by side pictures of yours and mine.
Best, Nicolas Machiavel. :)
To me, the essential sports Rolex!
Up to now I have had 10 different 5513 and 4 5512. These are my current and also my favorite variations: 5513 Comex: 5513 meters first asymmetric: 5512 pcg 2 line: I still feel that the 5513/5512 is the Calatrava of sports watches and a nice one will alwa...
the last shot...
.....and the first one...and the second one You are correct to say that the 5512/5513 is truly an iconic piece for a collection. Your stable looks tremendous...... please show more!
Beauties
WOW. Those are some seroius subs. Thank you for sharing. That 5512 CR 2 Liner is STUNNING. V/R Mike
Any other info?
Nicolas: Any other info you can tell us about that MN Sub? Any caseback markings? Any unusual indications on the case denoting its military history? Any cool stories behind it? We'd love to hear it! V/R -Mike
I am working on this topic since 2010!
I will put it on line one of these days, but I think this is the post which will require the use of the conditional the most! To make it short, a few were used by the M.N for five years, at the end of the Sixties. Less than 100. Yes, the case back was eng...
This is a very "discussed" watch...
...to say the least. I am sure your post will raise very interesting controversy !
Interesting Stuff
Nicolas: I'm looking forward to reading the post when you write it. I've never heard of this specific military connection with these subs until now. I learn something new every day. Only 100 - and you have two! Lucky guy. Enjoy them. V/R Mike
No, I don't own two. But I met someone who has the other one.
And I saw, in the real life, 4 more, so a total of 6. Plus two others on the net, and basta. I don't know where the others are. Best, Mike. Nicolas
Plain and simple
I like mine plain and simple. PCG, 2 liner and CR dial of course. Nice idea to start this thread Nicolas! Best Edmond
Like this?
Not sure what you mean by dead face. I have to take a photography lesson- I know. I am clueless... E ...
A picture of the dial showing what is written under 6 o'clock.
Swiss ( as I suppose ) or T Swiss < 25? Best, Nicolas
Understood
Its a swiss (exclaimation dot) dial. Fitting for the period of early 1960s. Best Edmond ...
Clarification
Nicolas- just out of pure interest: Can a CR dial have also the non usual 'Swiss' but rather 'swiss > 25' written on it? E
Hola Nicolas!! Fantastic thread you started here!!...
... I really feel that the 5512/5513 reference deserved a thread like this. You know about my long love afair with the 5513, started in 1966. That was the dream of a child come true, and my love for Submariners and Rolex which I still keep in my heart. I ...
Pointed Crown guard, Chapter Ring, 4 line
Such a perfect combination but so hard to find a nice example Best, Sam
Chapter Ring..
Eagle beak crown guard or square guard won't hurt... Too many nice ones in these 2 variants... I mean I'd be happy with a nice maxi dial 5512 or 5513 These 2 are very nice reference... Still crossing my fingers to find a nice one Sam
Chapter ring is the classic.
I may well take this road, too... Or a nice brown or caramel patina... But I am following your progression / journey with a lot of interest. Best, my friend. Nicolas.
It is a step above the rest...
And a good friend recently showed some nice chapter ring dial submariner... They look really stunning in metal And I knew I gotta go for that one.. Well good to know that you might take this road too, I just hope that we don't fight over a same piece :)) ...
Easy.
One of the first deep black glossy ( 1959 / 60 ), or one of the last gilt dials ( 1966 / 67 ) with a brown / Caramel dial... Or... Both. ;) Best, Nicolas
Both...
What a solution to a problem... :) I guess two is always better than one Nicolas.. Best, Sam
any of your 5512 5513 posted I can take anyone
of them anytime! I was on the plane and watched a TRIAD movie, in it, one of the guys was viewing all great watches at a store and he simply said, "I will take all of them!". That would be the day! :) Mech.