I think the difference is the hinged dust cover.

Patek Philippe 2023 Rare Handcrafts Collection

By: Pretty Boy : March 20th, 2023-21:20

Looks like PP‘s 2023 rare handcrafts collection will feature a couple of automotive-inspired pieces. The one pictured is stunning (looks like cloisonné enamel and miniature painting). The whole collection will be presented at PP’s Geneva Salons from 1 thr...

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Patek Philippe 2023 Rare Handcrafts Collection

I'm now waiting for Fabrizio to drop....

I don’t think that the full collection will be revealed before 27 March 2023.

Got it :)

Correct, we now have the official time of the releases👍I’ll make an announcement later.

Thanks Filip -- most everything else is still under embargo, but needless to say....my forum will be THE first place you'll see all the new models also this year! :-))

I can’t wait to see the full lineup

Me too.

Some people might like these!

I kind of like the approach. Let’s see how it looks like in real life.

Correct! Let's see more than just the PP Website Photos.

+1

wow that one is awesome

👍

i wonder if the Clous de Paris means we're a few more years away from the xx96 successors

The hobnail bezel has been used on Calatravas of the rare handcrafts collection for many years.

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Great point, the historical relevance of the Clous de Paris/hobnail bezel is indeed hard to overestimate within the Calatrava lineup! This specific Rare Handcraft will be part of the new reference 5189G.

Really love the colors ...

Many thanks my friend -- honestly, such a uniquely powerful choice of colors combined with the three-dimensional effect of the enamel work made this one of my favorite pieces coming out of Ms. Porchet's atelier! ;-)

Is there a new non rear handcraft watch on your wrist 👍

Yep, that's our gorgeous 5326G, from the events last year....too bad that Patek wanted it back! :-)) A couple of better pictures:

my primary school aged daughters love to sit next to me and flip through the patek magazine and decide which ones i should get for them

Child prodigies!! 😉

Lovely image....I think your daughters understood the "next generation" message remarkably well! :-) PS: If they would like a few more interesting books to flip through, feel free to send me your shipping address and I'll take care of the rest.... ;-)))

Lucky

Cheers my friend🙏🥂

PS: Out of full accuracy, since this new model has officially been listed as a 5189G (I believe the main difference with the 5177G concerns size -- more on this later), I just modified my reply with "5189G" in lieu of "5177G" ;-) Cheers.

I think the difference is the hinged dust cover.

Correct, that is certainly also a difference (neither “our” nor any other 5177 does have a hinged dust cover)…in fact, this 5177/5189 variation is fully consistent with the earlier 5077/5089 reference change (metals and other details aside)👍

interesting so the 5189G will be basically a 6119G just with the rare handcraft components- same size (39mm) and movement (hand wound)? Also, lovely collection of the rare handcraft books/ catalogues you have there

Many thanks Dauster -- the 5189 will follow the long tradition of Patek Rare Handcraft models, both in- and out-of-catalog, which have beeen powered by the *automatic* Caliber 240.

Got it, yes well aware of Calibre 240 - thanks for clarifying

Not a problem — sometimes, even the most educated collectors may not be familiar with all details of Patek’s Rare Handcraft production👍 Even in these ‘emoticon times,’ which for highly mysterious reasons seem to never come to a conclusion…

Really appreciate your insights, is there a reason PP releases rare handcrafts with multiple refs (new 5189/ 5177)?

Like for any other model, a different reference number (meaning specifically the *first four* digits) normally corresponds to a substantial change in the watch that goes beyond the dial. The dial alone is indicated by the three digits after the dash.

Thanks, but I guess I wasn't very clear in my question.

Nope, that is more than I can say :-) BUT, I see you are on the US West Coast, which means that for you my live Patek announcement will be on….Sunday rather than Monday!😄 (A little hint on the time we’ll go live worldwide with the new models! ;-))

awesome can't wait !!!

😉🥂

PS: Note one "gap" in my collection of Rare Handcraft volumes, namely the 2020-21 issue (same gap of all Italian ADs, including our boutique in Milano! ;-)) Looking forward to picking it up this summer to "complete" this much beloved collection! :-)

nice pics, you don't happen to have a side by side shot of the two school of fish pices right? one more blue the other with greenish fish

My 5177G-028 and a 5089G-101 together in the metal?? I wish my friend, but chances of that ever happening are *really* slim! :-))

that would be awesome :)

Most definitely!😉🥂

Many thanks Volker for sharing this gorgeous '5177G teaser' that appeared on Patek's site today! :-)

That is a cool piece of wrist art. And a sporty strap to top things off. Very nice.

Can't wait!

Very cool!

I have to say, this looks stunning.

Very cool! I really like the retro racer aesthetic and the way it’s carried through to the hands & strap.

Nice watch, not a fan of the punctured hands

Interestingly, this is not the first time Patek offers an original set of hands on a Rare Handcraft, consistent with the spirit of the theme (see, e.g., Ref. 5077P-058 below)....but it's a detail I no doubt look forward to seeing in person! :-) Cheers.

Hah! Thanks dor posting. Original approach for sure!

👍🥂Cheers.

Thanks!

wowww

Veeery nice 👌🏻

Thanks V in sharing this lovely piece and perpetuated

what a cool piece!

+1, and more to come! :-)

Dear Friends, a few more details on the 2023 Rare Handcrafts Exhibit (April 1-15, Patek Salons) and on the gorgeous new 5189G-001 from the "teaser"....which combines enamel and miniature painting techniques (some similarities with Boccadasse! ;-))

Love this automotive theme

That's also a good point -- besides the insane competition for any Rare Handcraft among top collectors in recent years, chances are this theme will be another huge hit in terms of popularity, given the overlap between watch and car lovers! ;-))

In. 🏎💨

+1, knowing your passion (and talent!) for cars, as well as the level of your Patek collection, this watch seems to be made for you my friend! ;-))

Many thanks Dauster -- the 5189 will follow the long tradition of Patek Rare Handcraft models, both in- and out-of-catalog, which have beeen powered by the automatic Caliber 240.

Like for any other model, a different reference number (meaning specifically the first four digits) normally corresponds to a substantial change in the watch that goes beyond the dial. The dial alone is indicated by the three digits after the dash.

My 5177G-028 and a 5089G-101 together in the metal?? I wish my friend, but chances of that ever happening are really slim! :-))