patrick_y[PuristSPro Moderator]
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Ugh! Gut wrenching!
Jan 13, 2022,06:30 AM
I hope that you'll be reunited soon. For problems, they really ought to do something special for you. Afterall, you didn't sign up for problems!
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As someone who has done branding...
By: mdg : January 12th, 2022-23:59
...for tech companies, I just can't understand why they tied the watch to pens. It makes no sense. My other issue with them is that most of the watches are too enormous for my 7.25" wrist to wear.
Montblanc at the time was trying to become a lifestyle brand...
By: patrick_y : January 13th, 2022-00:02
Montblanc really made excellent pens. And they were convinced if they made excellent watches, that men would buy them. They didn't really "tie the watch to pens" but it does look like they did so inadvertently. Alas, while Montblanc made excellent watches...
One more thing that ties into branding...
By: mdg : January 13th, 2022-00:30
...their website is Montblanc, and from there you can choose pens, watches, bags, headphones, perfume, etc. If they want to be taken seriously, they should have designed a 'watches only' site, not something that looks like 'Sharper Image' or Macy's...alon...
I haven't been to the Cartier site...
By: mdg : January 13th, 2022-02:21
...as they are not my kind of watch. But I can't take a watch brand too seriously if they also dabble in fragrance and necklaces. Maybe that's just me. Yes, I know Patek has cuff links, etc., but those are clearly minor items in the inventory.
Agreed. They even recently had Geneva Seal timepieces!
By: patrick_y : January 13th, 2022-06:24
There was a lady who was very serious about timepieces who ran the timepiece division at Cartier. I do believe that she has recently departed unfortunately and her efforts don't seem to be entirely continued.
Very diverse
By: Weems@8 : January 13th, 2022-14:24
They have a kind of cuteness. From time to time i browse which watches they have.
you are getting some strategic points wrong here
By: penfriend : January 13th, 2022-09:51
when Montblanc purchased Villeret the initial offerings (Villeret 1858 line, since 2015 discontinued) was aimed at the existing customer base in the pen business. at that time already those artisan editions sold on average around 25.000 Euro each with up ...
My crazy rules
By: Weems@8 : January 13th, 2022-14:28
I hold on my crazy rules tight. For Montblanc i skip the rules. Simply, they are real and they took Minerva under their save wings. I see them as a kind of Girard Perregaux.
Thank you for that insight!
By: patrick_y : January 14th, 2022-17:23
As a Montblanc fountain pen collector since my teenager years, I'm aware of the strategy you mentioned. I can also say, we have different viewpoints. For instance, in USA, the strategy you mentioned was not utilized. But in Europe and Asia, the strategy y...
Yes! Thank you for the reasoning!
By: patrick_y : January 14th, 2022-19:44
Definitely appreciate the deep knowledge of everyone here on WatchProSite! That's why we are a great place to trade information, because inaccuracies are corrected by the community, details are richly inferred, and it makes the whole experience that much ...
Octo is awesome but
By: m2 : January 13th, 2022-00:06
Mine had rotor issues. Apparently quite common :\ The geneva stripes were well done in particular. Too bad...had to send it back ...
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By: m2 : January 13th, 2022-00:25
Yeah I bought it used. Luckily seller was AWESOME and recognized he didnt test it properly before sending out. Him and I both had a ton of transaction history etc so he was great/easy to deal with. Just disappointing. When I posted about it on another for...
Love The Octo FS!
By: enjoythemusic : January 13th, 2022-00:42
It's been about 16 months and love it more today due to having more time to appreciate what it represents. Never had a problem, very good accuracy, and I use it off-road bicycling, the beach/ocean, up/down dress style, etc. Not babied at all. The bracelet...
Octo Finissimo is a leader
By: Steve E : January 13th, 2022-02:16
I visited NYC in 2017 to see the Patek Exhibition. While in the city I stopped off at Bulgari to leave two older Genta pieces for service. Afterwards I was shown the Finissimo - I think they had only gotten 1 watch at that point. It was a real eye opener ...
You know where I stand on this.
By: Jay (Eire) : January 13th, 2022-02:24
The Octo is the most exciting new mass market watch of the last 10, 20 years even. It is the only watch in the last decade which when I first saw the press pictures I said I have to buy one (if it fit my wrist, and once I found the right one for me). Mont...
Agreed, agreed, and agreed!
By: patrick_y : January 13th, 2022-06:29
"The Octo is the most exciting new mass market watch of the last 10, 20 years..." So true, but it may take a while for people to recognize that. The Royal Oak and the Nautilus were game changers but not an immediate success back when they were launched. "...
I agree! However, I am still waiting for mine to be returned!
By: JoshTheCanadian : January 13th, 2022-02:24
I also had rotor issues (as well as issues with the seconds hand). I returned it at the end of September (having purchased it in the middle of September), and now Bvlgari is saying end of February on the repairs. I'll be honest, it is pretty disheartening...
Ugh! Gut wrenching!
By: patrick_y : January 13th, 2022-06:30
I hope that you'll be reunited soon. For problems, they really ought to do something special for you. Afterall, you didn't sign up for problems!
I would happily get the octo finissimo blue dial like your picture above...
By: hoseachandra : January 13th, 2022-04:04
If they make it smaller, perhaps 36-38 mm. As it is now, the 40 mm very square case and very wide bracelet, it does not looks nice on my wrist. Eventhough the comfort is supreme (yes i have tried it on my wrist). Now i am interested in this : 41 mm with v...
My thoughts?
By: patrick_y : January 13th, 2022-06:32
They had me at Maldives! Plus the design looks awesome! It's not quite as thin as the Octo Finissimo models, but it's definitely very cool. I definitely like this all black version over the other versions!
Thanks, Patrick. Fully agreed with you.
By: hoseachandra : January 13th, 2022-13:59
I dont have any prejudice with any brand. As long as they make high quality watch, with reliable movement to keep away any fuss, and the design and function fits me, i will buy it if i can. Or i just admire them from afar and enjoy the magnificent creativ...
You are absolutely correct!
By: patrick_y : January 14th, 2022-17:28
1. Yes! 2. Yes, you can definitely have preferences! You can even have prejudices, and that's okay, as long as you know you're prejudiced! 3. Correct. Allow yourself to be surprised, and give credit when it's due. 4. Absolutely. There are whole teams of m...
Agree and don’t agree
By: Bruno.M1 : January 13th, 2022-08:03
The octo finissimo is indeed a perfect example to agree I wouldn’t have considered Bvlgari in the past but the OF was so nice I bought it and I do love it Now, where I don’t agree…. I’m pretty sure there is on brand I’ll NEVER buy…. And that’s Richard Mil...
Very fair!
By: patrick_y : January 14th, 2022-17:30
I'm glad you like your Octo Finissimo! We certainly have a lot of OF owners here who like their watch! Richard Mille is definitely not for everyone!
I can not wear any Seiko
By: Weems@8 : January 13th, 2022-10:32
I had one, so enough i know to never ever wear a Seiko. Reliable, but broke, bad strap, i completely did not understand that watch.
Ahh. I don't own a Seiko.
By: patrick_y : January 14th, 2022-17:31
I don't like the Seiko design language very much. Few Seikos look good on my wrist. But I still take a look every now and then to see if there is one I will like.
I don’t understand why always a Seiko automatic must be a first automatic
By: Weems@8 : January 14th, 2022-18:10
And then they are over the moon about the inexpensive price. Maybe i am a bit different as watch collector. I opened a Seiko i owned. By surprise i discovered it contains not so great movement as an Armani watch i had. So i think Seiko got to much credits...
Terrific post, Patrick.
By: TheMadDruid : January 13th, 2022-19:21
You’ve started a great conversation, on several points. I’m having fun reading everyone’s reaction and opinions. As someone up there said: Bulgari has been in the watch business for a long time. Buying Genta just helped refine their already unique aesthet...
Thank you!
By: patrick_y : January 14th, 2022-17:34
Yes. Genta and Bulgari are a great combination. Truly a great combination! Now, with the super complications like tourbillons and minute repeaters, I'm really impressed with the watchmaking skills at Bulgari/Genta.
my fear
By: Phaedrus29 : January 13th, 2022-23:35
Whenever I read posts like this I get scared...I want an Octo badly and don't want the prices to go up.
😂
By: TheMadDruid : January 14th, 2022-11:50
Sorry. Better go get one soon!
By: patrick_y : January 14th, 2022-17:34
Better go get one soon before the price increases! Which Octo has caught your eye?
Thank you!
By: patrick_y : January 15th, 2022-21:38
Wow! Nice one! I didn't know you liked Middle-Eastern numerals.
Very cool!
By: patrick_y : January 16th, 2022-18:10
My favorite style are indices or Roman numerals. I wished they'd make an Octo Finissimo with Romans!