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great read, but one particularly controversial passage
Jan 05, 2008,07:41 AM
Hi SJX,
This is a great read and will likely serve to educate many Grand Seiko newbies for years to come. Thanks!
I wantred to mention though that the often repeated bit about Seiko's success at the Observatory Competitions in Geneva and Neuchatel being responsible (at least partially) for the discontinuation of these trials is a highly controversial statement and one that is difficult if not impossible to establish with any certainty.
If it were the case (that the trials were discontinued out of national embarrassment basically), then we're unlikely to uncover any documentation to that effect as surely none of the principals involved in the decision would've been forthright about the reasons. Lacking such direct evidence, we're left with conjecture and circumstantial evidence and my opinion is that it is important to be clear about that. "It can be argued that..." "Some have postulated that..." You know, that sorta thing,
Another tidbit in the article I found difficult to come to terms with exactly is the reference to the Shizukuishi Watch Studio's 19 watchmakers cranking out up to 30,000 pieces per year. That sounds like a lot of watches per watchmaker. Maybe a large number of those watches are Spring Drive and don't require much intervention by watchmakers?
A very nice read, thanks again!
_john
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A Short History of the Grand Seiko
By: SJX : January 4th, 2008-07:06
There is hardly any English language information available for Grand Seiko so I decided to put one together. I actually wrote a few words on this some years back, but never completed or published it. Since there has been substantial interest on the forum ...
Fantastic read!! Thank you!!
By: ks : January 4th, 2008-22:47
Do you happen to know if there is any dive watch series in Grand Seiko? Cheers! rgds ks
great read, but one particularly controversial passage
By: ei8htohms : January 5th, 2008-07:41
Hi SJX, This is a great read and will likely serve to educate many Grand Seiko newbies for years to come. Thanks! I wantred to mention though that the often repeated bit about Seiko's success at the Observatory Competitions in Geneva and Neuchatel being r...
Some thoughts on the controversy...
By: SJX : January 5th, 2008-08:08
Hi ei8htohms, Thanks for the input. That's a good point and I do agree with it; that the discontinuation of the observatory trials due to the success of the Japanese can never be proven with any certainty, whatever is said is conjecture and personal opini...
Great read, JiaXian, ....
By: SuitbertW : January 5th, 2008-09:42
and a worthy subject as well. Re. the observatory chronometer competitions - I don't share your view on this, and I'd be curious to see the data you seem to have found. In 1968 - to my knowledge the Geneva chronometer competitions were already gone - i.e....
some info
By: ei8htohms : January 5th, 2008-10:41
Like I wrote earlier Suibert...
By: SJX : January 5th, 2008-19:20
I appreciate your comments; I look forward to your posts because they are always very informative. Like I wrote earlier, in agreement with John, whether the demise of the observatory trials is due to the quartz revolution or Japanese watches or anything e...
Hi JiaXian, ....
By: SuitbertW : January 6th, 2008-03:57
...don't take me wrong, I'm not going to convince you or attempting to change your opinion. But I found the facts on which you obviously based this opinion a bit puzzling. As John pointed out the reference to J. Goodall's - I'm going to see where the data...
A reply
By: SJX : January 6th, 2008-04:31
The source I have read which somewhat addresses this
By: SteveG : January 5th, 2008-10:30
question, more in an informational rather than rhetorical fashion, is K. Seiya: At this page: www32.ocn.ne.jp .html#chrono ) "Chronometer appeal In the middle of 1960's, European Chronometer Official Association appealed that Seiko shouldn't use the name ...
Setting the record straight - I hope
By: ticktock : January 6th, 2008-16:36
As the author of "A Journey in Time: The Remarkable Story of Seiko" which was one of the references used by SJX, it seems appropriate to post here Seiko's official description of the Spring Drive mechanism, as quoted in the press release issued at the tim...