Quatum Leap (II) - The Vacheron & Constantin ref 4240 / 4241 Calendar Watches

May 13, 2019,22:52 PM

Hi Student,
Since it is another topic I prefer to start a new thread.

(below in pink V&C ref 4241)

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and another with cornu d'vache lugs

 By: watch-guy.com : May 13th, 2019-23:09

nice [nt]

 By: student : May 13th, 2019-23:32

an interesting question

 By: student : May 13th, 2019-23:35
VC few published the production of one type movement or reference . For example, the Chronometre Royal with caliber1007&1008. In 1942, the VC produced Ref. 4240, triple calendar, using caliber 455 . Then caliber 485, 495 were produced, with models 4240,42... 

The Production Figures

 By: timeset : May 14th, 2019-12:37
As far as I know there was little published yet about production figures and as you may remember from the V&C Chronographs from that period, there were many variants and each variant with different numbers. Variants of cases, of lugs, of dials, of mov... 

I know it's hard to find an answer to this question.

 By: student : May 14th, 2019-18:08
.may be total for them is less than 2000 pieces, so less 200 pieces per year . at that time, the VC output of all watches was 5,000 per year.

The Production Figures II

 By: timeset : May 14th, 2019-20:33
I think to get a better understanding of the production figures, you have to look closely at the V&C Chronograph watches of that time. Why? Because they have been in a very close price bracket. And you should think about, if they would have been sold bett...  

Your sharing always brings surprises.

 By: student : May 15th, 2019-00:59
The price marked in example, I can understand line 3. It's 18kyg and 18kpg. line1 mean for steel case ? the letters:heures,couronne,anses. can you tell me what are the three words mean for. thank you.

Variant Description 4241 and 4240 calendar in the price sheet

 By: timeset : May 15th, 2019-02:47
Acier inoxydable, heures or, couronne or -> stainless steel ( link ), hour indices (hour markers) gold, crown gold (for 4241 and 4240) Acier inoxydable, anses or -> stainless steel, lugs gold (for 4240 only) Or 18 ct jaune ou rouge -> yellow gold 18K or r... 

thank you

 By: student : May 15th, 2019-04:03

Huh? what is going on with the 4444!?

 By: LS : May 15th, 2019-05:37
was there really a watch that retailed for 17,325 CHF in 1949?! I can't find any pictures of this ref on google.

Vacheron & Constantin ref 4444 - The Beast

 By: timeset : May 15th, 2019-10:58
I guess you have seen it. ...  

What we already know - Retrospection

 By: timeset : May 14th, 2019-11:59
Article from "The Hour Louge" - The Vacheron Constantin Discussion Forum "... The calendar is like the air we breathe, it surrounds us, it rhythms our lives, but we don’t really pay any attention to it. ... Quantum Leap: History of Vacheron Constantin Cal...  

Thank you for your sharing.

 By: student : May 14th, 2019-17:51
I've read this article carefully before, but unfortunately I haven't saved it (because THL is closed). Now I reading it, there is a feeling of reunion between old friends.

new arrival

 By: student : May 19th, 2019-06:57
,18kyg ...  

What means new arrival

 By: timeset : May 19th, 2019-10:22
Tell me some more about the watch. Do you have more pictures?


 By: student : May 19th, 2019-14:26
its a nice one for me, original dial with patinas. caliber 485,movement ,case i think its made in early 1950s,maybe in 1950. ...  

I usually enjoy some wabi also

 By: timeset : May 20th, 2019-02:58
Most of that calendars have some issue with the dial. Try to do some pictures with natural light at lunch time, a even better outcome would maybe achieved. Do you have pictures of the inside also? The numbers and the caliber would put the watch to the lat... 

more pictures

 By: student : May 20th, 2019-03:28

Tell me more about the watch, was it the same source or where this watch come from?

 By: timeset : May 20th, 2019-11:47
The movement seem to have been well cared for that age, probably compelete overhoul.

i got it from my friend

 By: student : May 20th, 2019-17:46
a chinese vintage watches collector。

My recommendation for you would be

 By: timeset : May 21st, 2019-01:58
Take some sharp and high resolution photos from inside and outside of the watch with natural light and afterwards return the watch to your friend. Tell him you need some time to decide, your wife make troubles – whatever. If he is a friend, he should acce... 

please tell me your advice about the vc

 By: student : May 21st, 2019-02:15
maybe i cannot return it . the pictures take by myself.

I need better pictures, I don't like to guess something

 By: timeset : May 21st, 2019-03:23
The authentication isn't instandly done, it needs some time. To do so, I need to see high resolution pictures. So first start to do better photos, with as much natural light as possible (window to outside at lunch time), good camera... Did you try to retu... 

i will provide high definition pictures.

 By: student : May 21st, 2019-04:52
This watch was bought by my friend from Japan auction. I don't think the watch with a problem. I see you are an expert in vintage vc. Your suggestions are valuable. I will study it carefully in the future. But I bought this watch only after I saw it , so ... 

I'm not that fast with my final quote.

 By: timeset : May 21st, 2019-12:11
But we will see.

Good News

 By: timeset : May 25th, 2019-09:07
Hello student, I checked some more data and tried to exploit the photos you sent. Now I'm quite confident it is authentic , because I could spot another ref 4240 with identical dial (print and hour markers) and very close numbers, the watch I found was re... 

new arrival means

 By: student : May 19th, 2019-15:21
i get it recently.


 By: timeset : May 20th, 2019-02:48
I'm quite convinced it will please you, those calendars are of such marvelous beauty.