FabR
[Senior Patek Moderator]
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I certainly agree on your broader point --- while there's (probably!) no doubt that Ref. 6300 is one of the most remarkable pieces horology can offer today (its combination of technical and historical significance is almost unprecedented)...
...these two gem-set versions of the reference (/400G and /401G) are highly likely to represent a "complete package" for some collectors! 
In fact, a romantic but reasonable reading is that, precisely because of these new interpretations, Ref. 6300 now "transcends" its brand....with a truly unique product where horology, aesthetics, history and art all finally match at the highest possible level!
Honestly, I am very much hoping to "casually" run into these references also in Italy and the US, though I'm sure it won't happen too often! I'll take a "tour" of some ADs next week during the Thanksgiving break, as it might help me get a sense of what the more "silent" collectors think, and soon after I already have in the agenda a private meeting with Patek. Believe me that, should I madly fall in love with either one of these two pieces (and it is a real possibility!), I will not hesitate to ask for one!
I'll take a "tour" of some ADs next week during the Thanksgiving break, as it might help me get a sense of what the more "silent" collectors think, and soon after I already have in the agenda a private meeting with Patek. Believe me that, should I madly fall in love with either one of these two pieces (and it is a real possibility!), I will not hesitate to ask for one! Cheers.
The new Refs. 6300 and 5271 'Haute Joaillerie': Four new marvelous Pateks that you probably haven't seen yet! :-)
Dear Friends, it is with great pleasure that I can officially share with you four new remarkable "high jewelry" Grand Complications released today! Many thanks --- even more than usual! --- to Patek for sending this detailed material to be shared with my ...
Whew....
when I look at these, I at once marvel at the craftsmanship, yet disdain the 'flashiness' of this type of design.... A mixed batch of thoughts and feelings.... Thanks for the pics Fabrizio, Filip
Thanks for commenting Filip :-) While I personally find these (specific) "haute joaillerie" versions of existing models to be totally unmatched combinations of jewelry and horology, I agree that, almost by definition, they cannot be for everyone! ;-)
Note the two models they take "inspiration" from, where pure horology is much more prominent: Ref. 5270 (of which we currently have three versions in catalog), and Ref. 6300. In particular, the latter is the worthy successor of the "Anniversary reference"...
Those are completely mesmerizing.
The way I tend to see it, one can pull it off (regardless of their sex - male, female and in between x) only if their sensibilities are such that they minimize absolutely everything about their presentation except the watch itself.... Then, in my mind, it...
You could definitely be right in your analysis --- we are speaking of such a rarefied group of collectors here (especially when it comes to the 6300) that it's difficult to make general statements...
... but I honestly wouldn't be shocked if, at that level, even a 6300 might get "competition in the presentation" for some collectors! (A car? a plane? Or maybe really noting?? ) For sure, in this day and age, lots of people will be waiting to see the fir...
The funny thing is....
due to my current line of work, I've found myself 'rubbing shoulders' with a few billionaires on a frequent basis, and I can tell you that 'your typical billionaire' (whatever that might mean), would never sport something along these lines on a frequent b...
LoLL
NOT with something like that on their wrist hawhawhaw.... The contract doesn't include a clause where it's OK to deliberately increase liability 300% .... The previous person I worked with bought a $50K Patek for his 72nd birthday.... The one I currently ...
I gotta get myself something jeweled...
My favorite part is the clasp! I especially like the clasp! I've been thinking about this clasp since I saw the 5971!
I seriously think they are *spectacular* pieces, for me the red in particular must be something breathtaking on the wrist! The only thing honestly needed to be considered is the $348k vs. the $211k for the "standard" 5270P ;-)
Patek is reading this thread, so who knows, maybe they'll decide to reward a top-tier collector like yourself if you submit a request! All of these pieces, including the two 5271s, will of course be extremely limited despite their being in regular product...
They are nothing short of spectacular indeed.
I'll have to treat myself when I have a better year. This year was already filled with some big treats and it already wasn't a good year.
When you say Patek is reading this thread and when you refer as "we" when speaking of patek makes me assume you work for them or are somehow affiliated ?
Excuse my ignorance just genuinely curious.
FabR is our Patek Philippe moderator...
FabR is not a Patek Philippe employee. FabR is a WatchProSite Moderator and is the Senior Patek Philippe moderator. Generally, Patek Philippe recognizes the WatchProSite audience as a major collector society and a legitimate internet discussion forum fill...
Hello Dauster, I see our Moderator Patrick has already perfectly answered your question --- I am the Patek Philippe moderator for this platform, and I am not on Patek Philippe's payroll :-)
Of course, I have a good personal relationship with the Brand, and during the last three years, it's been both a pleasure and an honor to make some very important (sometimes exclusive) announcements on their behalf, to the benefit of this remarkable colle...
thank you, I appreciate your very thoughtful response
I am really enjoying the the deep dive I can take here on rare handcrafts and patek in general
Amusing comment Patrick!
I think I would quite fancy just having the buckle jeweled, and the watch 'standard-issue' .... That way, in my mind, you get the best of both worlds! Cheers, Filip
My strange logic...
My strange logic is that I would probably be more likely to scratch the clasp while typing on the computer. Therefore, to have diamonds on the clasp is practical, since diamonds are scratch resistant! Besides, I always like a coat to have the fur lining o...
The fur inside of a coat is a touch of class, while personally I wear it rarely (often in winter I just go for big cashmere scarves), it can look REALLY elegant on a man who can wear it! :-)
I'm with you on these buckles, they are simply works of art in their own right! I've been paying more attention to them since I got my 5088 last year --- its P buckle is hand-engraved to match the "Volutes and Arabesques" dial, and sometimes I stare at it...
Beautiful buckle!
My favorite buckle is the 5160G buckle. It reminds me of the engravings of a Purdey gun. I'm very much a sweater person. I do like my wool and cashmere sweaters. I'm not big on scarves yet - I find that Europeans really know how to wear scarves and I find...
Ahh. I didn't know the buckle was G.
A lot of brands do the buckle in white gold with a platinum cased watch. But didn't know that was going on in this specific case.
Correct, the whole 5160G, hence including the buckle, is in G gold (of course easier to work with than P, but this definitely doesn't detract anything from its spectacular details! ;-)
Similarly, for consistency, both the case and clasp of the 5088/100P are in Platinum. However, the base of the dial where the engraving is performed is again in G gold (and the black portion is enamel) Hand-engraved P case Hand-engraved P buckle The hand ...
Beautiful pieces. Just not for me.
With my lifestyle I just don’t see any instances where I can wear one of these. But they are gorgeous. (And expensive!)
You know what....
those jeweled cufflinks are 'to-die-for'! That, I would get in a heartbeat ....
Thanks Filip, I honestly don't know more about these cufflinks but my guess is they may *not* be purchased separately from the watch, given their "6300" reference number (it will be no problem to ask though, if you are interested).
The closest ones in Patek's catalog that can be ordered via your ADs are probably these: Patek Philippe | Luxury Jewelry, Cufflinks, Rings & Accessories or even these: Patek Philippe | Luxury Jewelry, Cufflinks, Rings & Accessories Cheers.
Now, that's an impressive selection!
I wasn't even aware of the assortment on offer.... Thanks for sharing the links, when I was at the boutique in Beverly Hills last summer, they had absolutely none ....
That’s $&%*ing crazy…. I would never want a jeweled watch but this is an exception.
They are perfect. Unbelievable the attention and time that goes into pieces like these. That side profile picture of the grand comp is crazy. No doubt there are some people who will buy 1 of each. That would be a nice set to have
Many thanks for commenting, B. --- both the horological and the artistic aspects are indeed showcased at their finest in these pieces! :-)
Here's some information taken from Patek's site, if you or other members are interested in learning more on this most beautiful artistic craft of "gemsetting": PS: I frankly doubt many people will be able to get an allocation of one of each (especially w...
As an aside
I find the Patek product photography fairly ugly. The backgrounds and some of the angles are really unpleasant to look at.
LOL... I momentarily abandoned my "if you don't have anything nice to say..." mantra for a minute there.
So, umm, yeah... nice watches!!! Thanks for putting up with me, FabR!
These new pieces are unexpected and they contain the
WOW 🤩 factor ! All four are eye catching, and to me the blue sapphire ones look especially elegant. Thanks for sharing.
I'm usually not into gems, but...
...those 5271s are incredible! If I could, I would rock them without question. Owning both would be amazing, switching from blue to red depending on your mood.
It would be amazing, but I probably need a little more time!
I'm sure that sooner or later at least one Patek will make its way into my collection...
In full agreement Nils --- I very much look forward to seeing all of these models soon, but the 5271/12P is probably the one that struck me the most when I saw the pictures! ;-)
I love its highly unusual all-red design, a color we VERY rarely see on a Patek Philippe dial! Cheers.
Spectacular gem setting….
Firstly, thank you Fab for sharing this with us on the forum. The watches look spectacular, the quality of the design and gem setting is outstanding. Best regards Captain
Thank you for this post, Fab.
I love diamonds on time pieces anyway and feel that these are some of the best looking in the market. A "standard" black dialed 5270P is already a spectacular watch but these here are from out of this world!
I like how you're thinking!
Unfortunately, generally, they don't make the clasps available on their own.
well it has your name written on it I am afraid...
As I recall 6300 being a favorite of yours FabR.... the gem set one would be even better for you is my take. I would think the blue one.... Personally I would not mind walking around with the red 5271, what a stunning piece with the red dial to complement...
A red 5271 and a deep burgundy red soccer jersey!
Hmm. It's possible somebody will be wearing a ruby watch with a Burgundy Red Soccer Jersey in Doha during the World Cup!
The Grandmaster Chime (sounds like a Hip Hop artist) to me looks so much more appealing in this format.
It’s a case that was built to be bejeweled. Thanks for sharing as always Fab.
I can honestly say it’s the first time I look at that watch and think “not bad actually”.
The stones manage to do something that the elaborate engraved cases never seemed to do. It’s possible that they may even make the watch look a little more contemporary (something I’ve been discussing over on the Journe forum today). Can you imagine runnin...
I certainly agree on your broader point --- while there's (probably!) no doubt that Ref. 6300 is one of the most remarkable pieces horology can offer today (its combination of technical and historical significance is almost unprecedented)...
...these two gem-set versions of the reference (/400G and /401G) are highly likely to represent a "complete package" for some collectors! In fact, a romantic but reasonable reading is that, precisely because of these new interpretations, Ref. 6300 now "tr...
exciting...!
would love to see you sporting one of these FabR!! And you Jay for that matter as well!! Would love to attend that GTG
Thanks for your valuable input, R! At 41mm (same size as for the "regular" 5270), both of these beauties, as well as the earlier 5271P-001 with diamonds, can definitely look great on both genders! ;-)
I think you'll need to look no further for an unforgettable Christmas present this year, my friend! ;-)) Cheers.
What a fabulous treat Fab!
Great new models and you capture them perfectly in your photos…Happy thanksgiving all…Jim
My huge pleasure to present these latest Pateks to yourself and the other great members of my forum, Jim --- but I wish I had those photographic skills! ;-))
Thankfully, Patek has its own team of photographers (!) who recently did the amazing job you can see in this thread....while my contribution was simply to publish the finished product here for you! I know that your Patek collection is extremely strong, ev...
Has anyone spotted these in the wild or at least on IG?
Especially he 5271P in red is amazing
+1, I believe we haven't had any on the forum yet, but I'd love to see the first owner's pics too! :-) I had a meeting after we made this announcement but the new 5271Ps weren't available yet, so even your Patek mod has yet to see them in person! ;-))
Please just note that while all four of these new models are technically in-catalog, production will be *extremely* limited... I doubt they will even be available as part of the carnet for client events this year, so for most people the best bet will just...
I just saw the first IG post of one sheikhs / middle eastern royal family
with the 5271P red rubies - but can't think of this name right now.
You are correct Dauster -- this is Sheikh Joaan bin Hamad bin Khalifa Al-Thani, Prince of the state of Qatar ;-)
I believe the gentleman currently does not have a personal WPS account. His Patek Philippe watches are truly second to none, so like all passionate collectors around the world, it would be fantastic if he joined WPS! ;-) If you're reading this Sir, I'll b...
Would be interesting to get in touch with him via IG to get him here )
Surely his collection will amaze most of us ! If not all 😅
Most definitely, and I will be among the first to be amazed! ;-) Please feel free to go ahead and extend him an invitation via Instagram, if you would like.
I never opened an IG account (and have zero intentions to open one! ), plus I don't like to ask things twice. But I'm sure this special Patek collector will be made aware of my invitation above to join my forum -- and he will be most welcome here if he de...
The earlier 5271 diamond iteration is totally spectacular, but with these new sapphire and ruby versions we are possibly at an even higher level! :-) Did you have a chance to see them in person already?
They were not immediately available and I haven't yet, but I'm badly looking forward to, especially when it comes to the ruby....hopefully before summer! PS: I'm willing to place a bet right here F. that, if interested, given your collection you WILL --- ...
