The new Refs. 6300 and 5271 'Haute Joaillerie': Four new marvelous Pateks that you probably haven't seen yet! :-)

 By: FabR : November 16th, 2022-01:57
Dear Friends,

it is with great pleasure that I can officially share with you four new remarkable "high jewelry" Grand Complications released today! smile

Many thanks --- even more than usual! --- to Patek for sending this detailed material to be shared with my forum, since due to the extremely limited production of these models, their launch has been relatively "under the radar" today!
With the exception of Patek's official site, where you can already find some information, I am sincerely honored to be one of the first (perhaps the first? ;-) international outlet to present these highly exclusive new releases for our members! smile

Without further ado, below is a selection of official pictures for each of the four models, all showcasing Patek's absolute mastery of the technique of "gemsetting":

Refs. 6300/400G and /401G; and refs. 5271/11P (sapphires) and /12P (rubies).

The official press release and further documents will follow soon!

Thanks again to Patek Philippe for the opportunity to make this very special announcement --- and I sincerely hope you will enjoy! smile

FabR (Patek moderator for WatchProSite)

Ref. 6300/400G, "Time side"

Its gorgeous ”Calendar side"

A closeup of the spectacular gemsetting on the case 

The buckle

Ref. 6300/401G, featuring a total of 118 sapphires and 291 diamonds!

A closeup of its "Time side"

A detail of the case --- hardly horology and high jewelry have EVER encountered so beautifully... smile

The amazing new 5271/12P... One of the VERY rare occurrences of a red dial on a Patek Philippe timepiece! smile

A detail of the case, with its perfect gemsetting!

A closeup of the dial

Even the buckle is pretty marvelous! smile

And finally, the new 5271/11P, in a breathtaking ”blue version"

A macro of its case, featuring (along with the buckle) a total of 80 sapphires

The buckle

And of course, a mandatory shot of the equally gorgeous movement... shared with the earlier 5271 and 5270 iterations currently in catalog


 By: InHavenPro : November 16th, 2022-02:13
when I look at these, I at once marvel at the craftsmanship, yet disdain the 'flashiness' of this type of design.... A mixed batch of thoughts and feelings.... Thanks for the pics Fabrizio, Filip

Thanks for commenting Filip :-) While I personally find these (specific) "haute joaillerie" versions of existing models to be totally unmatched combinations of jewelry and horology, I agree that, almost by definition, they cannot be for everyone! ;-)

 By: FabR : November 16th, 2022-03:01
Note the two models they take "inspiration" from, where pure horology is much more prominent: Ref. 5270 (of which we currently have three versions in catalog), and Ref. 6300.

In particular, the latter is the worthy successor of the "Anniversary reference" 5175, and is THE most complicated timepiece Patek is currently offering, with as many as 20 complications! (You have certainly heard in the press of its unique steel iteration, the famous 6300A. It holds the world record at auctions with $31M, and was sold for charity in 2019 smile

Here's a couple of pictures for you:

Ref. 5270P, the latest iteration of this reference, announced earlier this year

Ref. 6300G-010, the second and current (in-catalog) version of Ref. 6300, a worthy successor of the historic 175th Anniversary Ref. 5175 smile

Those are completely mesmerizing.

 By: InHavenPro : November 16th, 2022-03:50
The way I tend to see it, one can pull it off (regardless of their sex - male, female and in between x) only if their sensibilities are such that they minimize absolutely everything about their presentation except the watch itself.... Then, in my mind, it is self-evident that they truly care about the unique mix of horology and jewelry these masterpieces indubitably present; but I have a hunch that a good percentage of folks who will end up buying these are quite the flamboyant types all-around wink.... Anyway, there's gotta be something for everyone, I wholeheartedly agree on that!! Cheers, Filip

You could definitely be right in your analysis --- we are speaking of such a rarefied group of collectors here (especially when it comes to the 6300) that it's difficult to make general statements...

 By: FabR : November 16th, 2022-04:15
... but I honestly wouldn't be shocked if, at that level, even a 6300 might get "competition in the presentation" for some collectors! smile (A car? a plane? Or maybe really noting?? smile)

For sure, in this day and age, lots of people will be waiting to see the first owner pictures of perhaps THE two most rare and exclusive *in-catalog* Pateks ever offered! smile

The funny thing is....

 By: InHavenPro : November 16th, 2022-04:19
due to my current line of work, I've found myself 'rubbing shoulders' with a few billionaires on a frequent basis, and I can tell you that 'your typical billionaire' (whatever that might mean), would never sport something along these lines on a frequent basis! Way too 'flashy', and risk-prone for 'sensible' ultra-wealthy people to have a desire to flaunt their incredible wealth in such a 'blunt' manner........ Food for thought, cheers, Filip

I remember.....but I thought you were precisely the one who was supposed to protect them?? ;-)))))

 By: FabR : November 16th, 2022-04:21


 By: InHavenPro : November 16th, 2022-04:28
NOT with something like that on their wrist hawhawhaw.... The contract doesn't include a clause where it's OK to deliberately increase liability 300% biggrin.... The previous person I worked with bought a $50K Patek for his 72nd birthday.... The one I currently work with probably doesn't even own one.... Remains to be seen! Cheers, thanks for the amusement, Filip


 By: FabR : November 16th, 2022-04:30

I gotta get myself something jeweled...

 By: patrick_y : November 16th, 2022-02:20
My favorite part is the clasp!  I especially like the clasp!  I've been thinking about this clasp since I saw the 5971!  

I seriously think they are *spectacular* pieces, for me the red in particular must be something breathtaking on the wrist! The only thing honestly needed to be considered is the $348k vs. the $211k for the "standard" 5270P ;-)

 By: FabR : November 16th, 2022-03:08
Patek is reading this thread, so who knows, maybe they'll decide to reward a top-tier collector like yourself if you submit a request! smile All of these pieces, including the two 5271s, will of course be extremely limited despite their being in regular production ;-)

Cheers my friend.

They are nothing short of spectacular indeed.

 By: patrick_y : November 16th, 2022-15:03
I'll have to treat myself when I have a better year.  This year was already filled with some big treats and it already wasn't a good year.  

👍👍Hopefully very soon my friend!🥂

 By: FabR : November 16th, 2022-15:59


 By: patrick_y : November 16th, 2022-22:54


 By: FabR : November 17th, 2022-00:15

When you say Patek is reading this thread and when you refer as "we" when speaking of patek makes me assume you work for them or are somehow affiliated ?

 By: Dauster : February 3rd, 2023-06:39
Excuse my ignorance just genuinely curious.

FabR is our Patek Philippe moderator...

 By: patrick_y : February 3rd, 2023-16:40
FabR is not a Patek Philippe employee. FabR is a WatchProSite Moderator and is the Senior Patek Philippe moderator. Generally, Patek Philippe recognizes the WatchProSite audience as a major collector society and a legitimate internet discussion forum filled with passionate watch collectors whom are both knowledgeable and acquisitive. And Patek Philippe employees generally monitor what is said and mentioned on WatchProSite to get an understanding of how the watch industry (including their own segment and their own brand) is perceived. Hope this answers your question.

This makes more sense - thank you for the detailed answer

 By: Dauster : February 3rd, 2023-18:50

You're welcome!

 By: patrick_y : February 3rd, 2023-19:01
Happy to help!

👍Cheers my friend.

 By: FabR : February 5th, 2023-00:35

Hello Dauster, I see our Moderator Patrick has already perfectly answered your question --- I am the Patek Philippe moderator for this platform, and I am not on Patek Philippe's payroll :-)

 By: FabR : February 5th, 2023-00:34
Of course, I have a good personal relationship with the Brand, and during the last three years, it's been both a pleasure and an honor to make some very important (sometimes exclusive) announcements on their behalf, to the benefit of this remarkable collector community.

In general, most major Brands are of course represented by a dedicated forum and by a moderator here on WPS (GO even has two moderators....who have my unrelenting admiration! ;-) It goes without saying that none of us would be able to properly function as moderators for such a relevant platform if we didn't enjoy a strong relationship with our respective Brands, were not regularly in touch with them, and weren't sent all the relevant materials to be shared with our fora (for mine, the live announcements of Patek's new models are obviously the most important moments of the year)... Plus, we do *lots* of other work behind the scenes that you might never get to see on here! smile

But yes, all that I do on or for WPS is done entirely for free --- I was never paid a cent by either WPS or Patek Philippe smile I believe this to be the case for all moderators who preceded me, and for those who will come after me.

It was simply the appreciation for the work done on here that I was shown by so many of our valuable members, by my fellow moderators, and by Patek Philippe itself that has kept me going for the last three years... Oftentimes, with the same passion, intellectual curiosity, enthusiasm, and....lack of sleep of day one! smile

Thanks again, and I have also tried to answer some of your questions from other recent Patek threads smile

Cheers, FabR

thank you, I appreciate your very thoughtful response

 By: Dauster : February 6th, 2023-19:59
I am really enjoying the the deep dive I can take here on rare handcrafts and patek in general 

My pleasure, and many thanks for supporting the forum🙏👍

 By: FabR : February 9th, 2023-03:25

Amusing comment Patrick!

 By: InHavenPro : November 16th, 2022-04:02
I think I would quite fancy just having the buckle jeweled, and the watch 'standard-issue' biggrin.... That way, in my mind, you get the best of both worlds! Cheers, Filip

AND a unique piece in the process! ;-))

 By: FabR : November 16th, 2022-04:38

My strange logic...

 By: patrick_y : November 16th, 2022-14:59
My strange logic is that I would probably be more likely to scratch the clasp while typing on the computer. Therefore, to have diamonds on the clasp is practical, since diamonds are scratch resistant! Besides, I always like a coat to have the fur lining on the inside. It's warmer on the inside than on the outside.

The fur inside of a coat is a touch of class, while personally I wear it rarely (often in winter I just go for big cashmere scarves), it can look REALLY elegant on a man who can wear it! :-)

 By: FabR : November 16th, 2022-15:57
I'm with you on these buckles, they are simply works of art in their own right! I've been paying more attention to them since I got my 5088 last year --- its P buckle is hand-engraved to match the "Volutes and Arabesques" dial, and sometimes I stare at it for a long while with no need to flip the wrist! smile


Beautiful buckle!

 By: patrick_y : November 16th, 2022-16:23
My favorite buckle is the 5160G buckle.  It reminds me of the engravings of a Purdey gun.  I'm very much a sweater person.  I do like my wool and cashmere sweaters.  I'm not big on scarves yet - I find that Europeans really know how to wear scarves and I find that Californians really DON'T know how to wear scarves, probably because it's not cold enough.  I fall into the Californian camp.  Maybe I need to live in freezing cold Boston or New York someday - I'll be forced to adapt!  This 5088 looks exquisite on your wrists.  You wear it well.  

That is another real beauty of a buckle (and of a watch in general, especially the case back!), also featuring hand-engraving as the marvelous Rare Handcraft technique on display....that buckle is G rather than P, but an equally amazing job! :-)

 By: FabR : November 17th, 2022-00:20

Ahh. I didn't know the buckle was G.

 By: patrick_y : November 17th, 2022-00:41
A lot of brands do the buckle in white gold with a platinum cased watch. But didn't know that was going on in this specific case.
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