Patek Philippe

Just some random 240Q and 5140 macros, for no particular reason. ...  

Wow!!!

This watch is core Patek to me. And your macros show it really hold up to close scrutiny. Attention to detail and still maintaining the overall design of slim, elegant and coherent. Yes, I really admire this watch.

Your macro shots are near-perfect. 👍

Best wishes Alkiro

I love the watch and its movement. VERY Patek. Thanks for sharing!

Correct me if I'm wrong (please!) but there appears to be no hand-finishing or polishing of anglage on the movement plates, the sides of dial apertures, or the sides of hands (at a guess, Grand Seiko hands would wipe the floor with these Patek hands). The... 

I doubt they can cope with doing "quality" hand finishing on every piece of their movements. And by quality, I mean at the level of certain equivalent Geneva Seal pieces, say a Vacheron Constantin or even a Chopard L.U.C 1.96.

...J was thinking the same thing. Given the quantity they produce, PP has done an amazing job of maintaining their hallowed place in the market. Nonetheless, I was expecting there would be a difference in finishing between your common-or-garden variety 24... 

Take a look at samwan's macros of his 5370P split seconds chronograph from a few days ago - that movement appears to be better finished than the 240Q movement in the 5140.

As I said above - it seems the minute repeaters and chronograph get the finishing attention... Best E.

Mostly, how many of them are interested in a shining anglage? I guess we both know the answer ;-)

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I have always been saying the movement finish on these Pateks are really just average, Dufour and Credor are on a different level completely. However it would be interesting to see how VCs and APs does it compare to Pateks.

Great observation! I wonder if perhaps the Geneva Seal is not applied by Patek themselves, but if the movements (or parts thereof) are sent off to the issuing authority and stamped there, then sent back to Patek. I could be wrong on this.

Excellent work to behold!

Are mind bendingly beautiful! Not to mention your great photography. Thank you for sharing, post more whenever you like

Well done!

Great skill

May I know what's your macro setup? As in what camera/lens? Light tent? Thanks!

The most important aspect here is good light and of course a camera with macro capabilities. I did not use a light tent, but two lanterns as shown. ...  

Thanks , no reason needed imo 😉

...WOW I know the reason why I was impressed : they are stunning ! Well done w220 You can come back and post pics whenever you want and you will never need any particular reason for that, just sharing ! Many thanks, Mike

My question is: Shouldn't the slots of the two screws on the rotor be parallel to each other?

Here are my 2 rotor screws. ...  

Functional movements without the flair of the Germans...It is quite boring in its precision and wouldnt it be great if they gave clients the option of standard and then maybe a ruthenium finish on others. Just jazz it up a bit instead of churning out deca... 

I'm a big fan of the 5140G and the 240 caliber in general. I've hardly met a 240 caliber watch that I didn't like! The bullnose of the anglage on the 240 caliber has some chatter. Definitely some room for improvement here. Fantastic photos. I can't imagin... 

thank you for sharing.

My own Patek shows the same sloppy finishing (as shown in photo below): ...  

Geneva Seal has nothing about the quality of the execution of the anglage. The Geneva Seal requirements are actually not that difficult to meet. Rolex's million watches a year would meet those requirements if they did just a few medium-sized changes.

If I find this kind of thing on my watch will they fix it? ...  

the so called "aesthetic perfection" is not guaranteed under optical magnification... So unless you can see those subpar finishings with your naked eyes, I guess Patek wins.

If you look really closely, the finishing was arguably better in 2005.

The plates above passes the PP standard. If you are really looking for perfection under magnification, then you'll have to find something a little more expensive. And remember, the "PP Seal" is a self imposed standard that is evaluated internally and grad... 

Do you mean this marks Thanks G ...  

Interesting. Wonder why Patek didn't polish those out - I'd think it would not require a very large effort to at least make it somewhat smoother?

The original reason why these would need to be polished is because there's a need to de-burr the edges from tiny metal fibers that could get in the way of the movement's operation. Today's metal technology is so good, that after the metal is CNC drilled, ... 

Consumers are getting more well informed these days due to the advent of technology and social media. I believe Patek is realising this.. Their Instagram game however, is a little Johnny come lately.. Well, better late than never..

But, sophistication takes time, sometimes generations, and parents/grandparents to teach you how it was done in the past and more importantly why it was done that way. I can tell a young boy or girl, "you must always eat caviar with a horn or mother of pe... 

Would think the 240Q movement would be better finished than a run-of-the-mill 315 movement? ...  

Seems uneven to my eyes

Although the 240 naturally looks better than the 315 because of the micro rotor.

The ones you can't see seems like they are dirty or have many tiny scratches. eg the one at 9/12 o'clock. The plate at 3 o'clock looks like it has "chatter". But the balance cock looks like it has flat polished anglage, instead of the rounded ones with "c... 

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But I am not sure if the 240 has the same machine polish on the same section of the balance cock like the 324.

This photo shows Patek Philippe does some amazing polish work and also shows some things could be done even a little bit better. For instance, the plate has some beveled edges, but the beveled edges and beveled sinks aren't polished. The bridges have poli... 

Always love your photos w220!