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The thing UJ did really well
was the detent escapement. The last generation of watches while very nice were really not up to the price. It is why the company stopped operations, and their watches traded at huge discounts on the secondary market. Covid obviously changed the landscape.
The new releases are targeted to an elite market, and I suspect they are all spoken for in the near term. There is some interesting technology in the new pieces such as the instant changes on the perpetual calendar. Finishing on the new releases seems to have moved upscale also. A few commentors have said still not up to Kari's watches. Who knows.
Who writes this crap 💩. All the real collectors have been bitterly disappointed
Fake journalism at it’s worst ...
I don't blame them
Nobody pays for media anymore, so it's hard to do much other than promote brands. Better than no media at all.
You mean like Jurgensen paid for such an article to be written?
I does seem a little out of left field for GQ to highlight this brand, unless it’s true.
Urban Jürgensen: Timeless Mastery Woven In Every Tick
Urban Jürgensen timepieces represent the pinnacle of horological artistry, blending centuries-old craftsmanship with modern precision. Each watch is a masterpiece, meticulously handcrafted with an unwavering dedication to excellence. The brand’s signature...
Perhaps, i do know a few Timepiece publications WERE interested in me writing for them....
...but then again, the human version of me can also be a bit controversial, which as you know is not productive towards a publication's financial gain via their advertising income scheme. But WOW oh WOW, my customized for the luxury goods marketplace AI A...
😂I was enjoying the episode…definitely didn’t expect that level of scientific depth…
but I really laughed at the last line about Art Garfunkel…that was mean.☺️
everyone is entitled to its own opinion, no?
just because u don't like it, does not make it less legit. this world can use a little let it go now 😅
I don't think it's a matter of opinion...
GQ is known to publish inaccurate reports and articles that contain a lot of fabrications. They are mostly click bait.
don't click then
it's a different target audience. perhaps they're just trying to make a living?
The thing is Kari Stole UJ's original aesethic
took the lugs, hands , engine turned dials etc... I always though the new UJ would be a cheaper version of a Kari. But it's the same price and the finishing is soulless. Something is lacking and the case is just horrendous
so tell me why make a UJ?
Its the same thing with a different name? Just seems like a cash grab. Why couldn't he have made it under his own name. It's just a ploy to increase production without diluting the market
The guy who bought the brand, Rosenfield Sr, is a huge Voutilainen collector so he brought Kari on board to lead it.
This is more Rosenfield’s vision than Kari’s, as I understand, and I know Rosenfield isn’t in it for just the money.
"Everyone is going crazy"
This is the point. The quality of the watch is not the point.
It actually is.
Why bother to roll out new watches under the banner. The company went under. Kari should have just used the facilities to help in his own production. Why create competition. UJ was known as the poor man's Voutilainen. LOL
Hype in any form is still hype. Whatever your opinion of this new release, a critical factor is the price point, UJ watches have always been on the upper end of the scale
but in the past they have been worth it due to class, design, exclusivity, history and Derek Pratt. Mitch
Finally I find my home😉 so much “positive press” from the usual suspects…
Happy to find a voice of reason here🙏 I find the watches do not do much for me. Yes, I appreciate the nod to Derek’s genius in the new tourbillon movt. I’d even go as far as to say the execution of the cage with the Reuleaux triangle remontoire is amazing...
Yeah...repeating myself here but:
The lugs are too stubby and don't gel with the rest of the design. The watches except for the time-only are way too thick and ridiculous. The overall design is OK but nothing very special. The movement finish is good and the dials nive, but the price thes...
Mmm. None of the watches available from these manufacturers under 50k offer nearly the same finishing as a Ferrier micro-rotor, which I feel is where the real high horology finish category starts.
But happy to be educated if there’s some hidden gem I haven’t discovered yet!
High Horology for Myself Comes in two Categories....
Pure Horology like the Strehler Sirna Source: Strehler And then all the High Finish High Polish, the Sky is the Limit on Complexity usual suspects. I appreciate them as well, like the Pascal Coyon posted by hora12reborn, the movement and the finishing is ...
Prices set aside, I haven't been utterly disappointed at all.
I even think the UJ-1 is a major release and would buy it if I could afford it. But then, I might not be a "real collector" ;-) As for this silly "advertorial" or whatever it is, it's just silly, of course. Best, Emmanuel
Don't worry,
I didn't take it badly at all because I know there wasn't the slightest bad intention on your part! I just wanted to give a little playful wink! Best, Emmanuel
Funny nothing less.
It seems that UJ to Kari became the Toyota to Lexus. I’m sad that Kari stole all the UJ elements and arguably dumbed down UJ. I see it as an overpriced Breguet, but its success it’s to be seen, since I believe the usual web influencers will push it until ...
I really like the first one bar the oversize winding crown.
I'll admit I really don't know a lot about this brand or its rich history so i went and read the GQ article which was a good idea as I always appreciate a good laugh to cheer me up. That article is just plain garbage and sounds like a marketing person tha...
I really like the new UJ releases! they aren't the same as the last gen of UJ watches but then again, no one bought those, it would be crazy to relaunch the brand with a proven commercially unsuccessful design
I'm not a customer at these prices and they are crazy expensive but not compared to KV, Biver, etc and the UJ1 is amazing, its not just an engineering first but the execution is beautiful.
What do you mean, when you say "last gen?"
Are you referring to the brand under Pratt and Baumberger or are you referring to the iteration under Petersen and Mojon?
These watches and the brand revival are certainly generating a lot of conversation.
It seems everyone can agree that the prices are outrageous. There is definitely more negative than positive opinions on case design, finishing and overall perceived quality of the watches. My big question is do people here think they will sell them? At 10...
The thing UJ did really well
was the detent escapement. The last generation of watches while very nice were really not up to the price. It is why the company stopped operations, and their watches traded at huge discounts on the secondary market. Covid obviously changed the landscape....
