Lange & Sohne Datograph 1st / Datograph 2d generation.

Jan 15, 2023,10:39 AM
 

Picture taken a the SIHH 2012, when the second generation of the Datograph was unveiled. 



I have my clear preference, but what's yours, between these two? 

Best,

Nicolas


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The original version without a second of hesitation 🤩🤩

 
 By: Mike H : January 15th, 2023-10:49
It doesn’t fit on my wrist but what a beauty !

I know Nico 😉

 
 By: Mike H : January 15th, 2023-10:57

;)

 
 By: amanico : January 15th, 2023-11:47

Yes!

 
 By: Ted-Lo : January 15th, 2023-14:13

Good!

 
 By: amanico : January 15th, 2023-16:56

Was it a question?

 
 By: Speedie74 aka Mr. Torquise : January 15th, 2023-11:21
First is and always will be the first love! Because of everything: size, proportions and I like even the roman numerals here… And the ugly “Auf & Ab” ruins totally the second generation… Just my 50 cents!

And 4, now. Grazie, Andrea.

 
 By: amanico : January 15th, 2023-11:49

I like the power reserve

 
 By: burnsey66 : January 15th, 2023-11:30
and prefer stick markers to Roman numerals, so my choice is made.

5-1 for the One, now.

 
 By: amanico : January 15th, 2023-13:09

1st gen for sure

 
 By: yming : January 15th, 2023-12:36
But it’s just too too heavy for me Ym

Not even close, 1st

 
 By: Miranda : January 15th, 2023-12:47

Well noted. :))) 7-1, now.

 
 By: amanico : January 15th, 2023-13:10

1st gen, no question.

 
 By: JoshTheCanadian : January 15th, 2023-13:34

Not sure why there is a huge debate

 
 By: immerschnell : January 15th, 2023-14:12
From a technical standpoint there really should be no problem with either. I’ve often scratched my head about why there are such emotionally intense sides to this question. In many cases it seems like one may really dislike the other model. I see them as ... 

Aaaah, good discussion to have. Aesthetically, I prefer the 1st generation. The original design is hard to beat, in my opinion, while the power reserve indicator on the 2d generation kills the original design, for me at least.

 
 By: amanico : January 15th, 2023-16:28
The Datograph is a magic triangle composed by the 2 sub dials and the Grande Date. The Second generation adds a power reserve indicator which draws a kind of weird losange. Now, the bigger case gives more comfort to the Datograph and the increased power r... 

Sure always good to discuss.

 
 By: immerschnell : January 15th, 2023-17:49
Do all of you really dislike the power reserve on this? I know some find it “distracting” but in what way really? To some extent you could say it balances the vertical aspects with the date on top. Again I’m not saying it has to be there but they did put ... 

I get the triangle and feel you my friend.

 
 By: immerschnell : January 15th, 2023-20:24
Frankly I still get the triangle on the gen 2. It’s still in the dna of Lange and the datograph in both. There’s nothing wrong with preferring one. It’s just a triangle with a circle too. Ha ha. It’s interesting how our tastes form isn’t it?? I still main... 

I dislike the PR indicator on the Dato Up/Down for two specific reasons.

 
 By: CR : January 16th, 2023-03:24
First, the shape of the little triangular indicator bothers me. I don't like that indicator on this watch, on the Lange 1 Timezone, or on any other Lange. I feel like the shape of it doesn't go with the Lange aesthetic. Second, I don't like the red printi... 

The one on the right without a doubt 👍

 
 By: India Whiskey Charlie : January 15th, 2023-14:50

First!

 
 By: KonaJ : January 15th, 2023-15:43
One of my most worn watches.

Lucky you! 10-1.

 
 By: amanico : January 15th, 2023-16:28

Well…”I wouldn’t kick either

 
 By: darrony : January 15th, 2023-15:56
Out of the bed”…so to speak. I would prefer the flatter aspect ratio of the new one and usually quite appreciate the PR indicator (on the back is best like JLC) … could have been the 2nd patent they borrow😂. But not sure if PR indicator look good on back ... 

11-1. Thanks, Darrony.

 
 By: amanico : January 15th, 2023-16:29

The original seems perfectly aesthetically designed to my eyes.

 
 By: vitalsigns : January 15th, 2023-16:11
The generation 2 seems to miss the mark a bit. --a bit too much empty dial space --should have kept the roman numerals at X and II or should have extended the hour markers somewhat --should have extended the "Datograph Flyback" text relative to the date w... 

Great minds... :)

 
 By: vitalsigns : January 15th, 2023-19:18

:)))

 
 By: amanico : January 15th, 2023-19:20

This one is interesting.

 
 By: immerschnell : January 15th, 2023-18:27
I’ve heard others say the gen 1 was preferred because it was more open and the gen 2 was cluttered by the PR. All of this is so subjective!! Isn’t that interesting??

For sure....so very subjective. The PR as a dial element doesn't bother me (nor its placement)...

 
 By: vitalsigns : January 15th, 2023-19:21
although for a classically designed chrono, i would have preferred it somewhat different, probably similar to the PR on the double split

I got you on that. Understood

 
 By: immerschnell : January 15th, 2023-20:25

Original for me.

 
 By: NautNut : January 15th, 2023-16:27
Prefer the case size, dial layout.

First

 
 By: nice2guy : January 15th, 2023-21:57
First generation for me. Second has too much open space. On power reserve, I don’t see the purpose on manual winding watches. Much prefer this feature on low efficient/micro rotor ones.

16-1 for the One, now.

 
 By: amanico : January 15th, 2023-22:07

17-1 for me

 
 By: Jim14 : January 16th, 2023-02:12
The perfection of the dial outweighs the pucklike wearability by quite a bit. I have not tried the first gen in my wrist, so I cannot tell if it is really as unbalanced for me as for others, but I doubt I would have a problem because I have a 7 1/4 inch w... 

Deployant

 
 By: nice2guy : January 16th, 2023-14:55
Deployant, doesn’t have to be Lange, makes first generation much more comfortable.

 
 By: nice2guy : January 16th, 2023-16:34
I am referring to a mechanism that folds from both sides. I don’t have experience with a one sided fold.

2nd Gen for me…..

 
 By: furen : January 16th, 2023-14:41
Cause its the one i have. I am bias. The power reserve is very useful especially since its a manual wind.

18-2, now. Thanks, Furen.

 
 By: amanico : January 16th, 2023-16:28

Original. I think it may be the greatest modern watch.

 
 By: montecristo#2 : January 17th, 2023-01:06
The presence of the watch is incredible. I love it. The thing with it is that there are actually two symmetrical triangles balancing each other. The one that everyone sees with the big date at the apex, and then the Roman numerals. The stick indices and p...  

Ok guys so how about this one…

 
 By: immerschnell : January 17th, 2023-10:37
Let’s say you could unsee the gen 1. And you never k we anything about it. It was never made by Lange until this year w the gen 2 which would be the gen 1 in my example. Would you find it groundbreaking and an inspirational design? What would you say abou... 

Aaaah, the fatal question! :)

 
 By: amanico : January 17th, 2023-10:51
Ok, I will try to answer to that one. First, that changes a lot of things, because: 1/ You have no comparison points, if there wasn't a first Datograph. 2/ You wouldn't have to compare the " 2 " with an Icon. 3/ You wouldn't be disturbed by the comparison... 

I hear you.

 
 By: immerschnell : January 18th, 2023-10:41
I suppose I wonder if we would even have a major issue with it though. I feel it wound technically be a powerhouse just the same. I guess if I’ve doesn’t like power reserve indicators then it would be less desirable me but trying v to imagine what wouldn’... 

Even better question! :)))

 
 By: amanico : January 18th, 2023-10:44

Definitely the Original....

 
 By: Rhyzen : January 17th, 2023-15:33
The 2nd generation is a gorgeous timepiece, but there's nothing like the 1st generation Datograph. The various elements just works perfectly.

21-3, then. Thanks, Mahesh!

 
 By: amanico : January 21st, 2023-00:17