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Overall, I prefer That, but I do much prefer the old style bracelet of This to the new, fwiw.
This or that?
Battle of Overseas : First generation Overseas ref. 42052 - 35 x 7 mm steel case - Center rotor caliber 1311 (according to Ben Dunn on Watchbrotherslondon ) Third generation Self-Winding Ultra-Thin Overseas ref. 2500V/220P-H028 - 39,5 x 7,35 mm platinum c...
First generation for me is the best
generation so far, I like the case shape, the bracelet and the fact that after all these years the watch design wise holds pretty well, my only gripe is the date window, for me, a small date as an only complication ruins the dial, doesn’t matter its posit...
Great comparison!
I also prefer the case shape of the first generation, but not the logo, date window or bracelet... If only we could have the best of both worlds!
Thank you! I agree that a no-date 1st gen would be great.
And, yes, the logo could be improved. The bracelet also, maybe, but I'm not sure if I prefer the one from the 3rd gen. Best, Emmanuel
Both nice
But one is way too small the other way too expensive So none But only considering the looks both are lovely
35 mm is small, but the presence on the wrist seems larger than the rated size would suggest.
But of course I understand why it's none of the two for you. Best, Emmanuel
Tough call — normally I would gravitate to the smaller version —
But, in this case I prefer the salmon dial of the third generation versus the copper dial of the first iteration. That being said, I would definitely need to see them at hand.
Beautiful Vacheron Constantin Overseas but for me it would have to be the first generation that I would choose.
As I just find the look far more appealing and whilst I'm at it sorry but a 7.35mm thin watch is not Ultra Thin watch. Marc
Not truly ultra-thin indeed.
Like you, I find the design of the 1st gen more pleasing. Best, Emmanuel
Visually, I prefer the later model.
The overall design to be feels more contemporary when you look at both the dial (and the dial furniture and text) and the bracelet. Of course, in terms of size I’d prefer the older reference. But the overall design carries more weight than the size prefer...
That.
I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but the bezel has never fit my eye, quattro.
I can certainly understand that
and, unfortunately for you, the bezel is exactly the same on both models. Best, Emmanuel
Not many can afford it,
and getting one will be a challenge even for those who can! Best, Emmanuel
If you can afford it and get one,
wearing it twice on Sunday is fully justified! ;-) Best, Emmanuel
First time I’ve noticed
The Gen I bezel, and Gen II for that matter, have 8 “ears” while the III only 6. The pronounced “hips” in the case shape and more complex bracelet design of the Gen III leaves me with the impression that the Gen I is the more sporty in appearance but the ...
It's great that you point out this detail:
I didn't count and had wrongly the impression they were identical. And I think it's another reason why I prefer the 1st gen: 8 ears make the bezel a little more "refined" (I'm not sure it's the right word, but something like that). However, as you say the...
case size is a personal thing
I had to let go of my Gen II chrono because it was too large, was always conscious of banging it against things! The Gen I fits perfectly so it remains a favourite. Also for sentimental reasons since it was my gateway to the brand, as I'm sure it was for ...
Wonderful! Actually, I like the white dial time only quite a bit!
Thanks for sharing. Best, Emmanuel
First generation, i really like the attention to detail regarding the bracelet.
For me the nicest bracelets they ever made
The new one for me.
I like the platinum case and I like how the newer bracelet links take their design cues from the Maltese cross. I always thought this was a cool idea.
The links design of third gen is interesting indeed.
I would just say that, as the Maltese cross motif is already on the bezel, it makes this motif a bit insistent. But it’s nice nonetheless.
I completely understand.
Just out of curiosity, was there a similar salmon dial piece in the 2nd gen? Best, Emmanuel
That for me...
I had the first gen - this Automatic as well as the Chronograph - both in steel, Military dial, and find the Automatic to be a bit small. I also prefer the straight text logo on the newer version, never a fan of such curved text (the military dial has str...
Yes, there’s clearly a problem with the date disc
on one of the photos! I understand all your arguments in favor of the 3rd gen. And, as you’ve owned two variants of the 1st gen your arguments are all the more valuable. I tend to find the design of the 1st gen a little more distinctive, but I’ve never tr...