I've always been an Apple hater myself. Always thought their products were overpriced for what you get especially their computer products (sorry Art
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Also never understood the ipod mania. And iphone mania will be coming soon. I personally think you do need a keyboard for a phone like that. I don't know how anyone would sit here and type on the touch screen for any decent length message. I'm typing this from my pda keyboard, and I wonder how long it would take if I typed out this message using my touch screen keyboard (my phone has both touch screen and keyboard).
cheers,
anthony