Mark in Paris
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I think that it will depend on the person
Some people won't feel that a watch they new for a long time made of a certain metal, since childhood maybe, will feel it is not "ntaural". And that's compeltly fair, imagine a Seadweller Deepsea or a Comex in rose gold...
In the mean time I think that for instance a Nautilus (or RO) that were launched in Steel are totally well in a gold material.
I don't think that there is a single appropriate material or way of wearing a watch but all depends on the owner.
As I explained, I feel that a rose gold Aquanaut won't be worn and used like a Steel one. It is more a "dressy" watch (because of RG and finishing) but with a very sporty look. That's how I would see it and that some clients are looking for.
We live today in a world where we like contrasts. Of colours but also for instance in clothing with pees + squares + lines in the same outfit. It is also for instance wearing a classical jacket + nice shirt + tie with jeans...
The rose gold on a sporty watch can also combine that sporty and dressy look that we already found in the Nautilus line.
The evolution of the initial use of a model and how it is worn as time goes by.
Of course everyone has to feel it, that's why it is good to have the choice 
Thanks a lot for your input Alkiro and your nice compliments!
best, Mark
Hands-on overview: the 2016 Patek Philippe 5164R Aquanaut “Travel Time”
Hi everyone, In 2016, a new version of the 5164 Aquanaut Travel Time was unveiled by Patek Philippe in rose gold to accompany the steel version introduced in the collection in 2012. The Aquanaut is well known for being a very nice “all-around” Patek due t...
This is quite subjective indeed
Rose gold and yellow gold are two material that bring a very different spirit from the other metals. Some see them dressier, classical, more traditional while others make think it is not for the youngest... I think it is more a matter of what reference an...
if I would go for gold, than the rose,
i have one rose watch in my collection, I think it has not that much to do with age, it looks sporty enough to me with my just 42 years
Indeed, two very different way to wear this watch
The rose gold is more elegant, while the steel version is more discreet and sportier. Time will tell you when you try them a few times. Best, Mark
Thank you Mark.
The travel function is definitely well thought out and super easy to use (same mechanisms I assume as the one in my 5990). I like the RG option, but think I still prefer the SS. For me personally, one of the merits of the Aquanaut is its very under the ra...
Yes it is the same in the 5990
Steel and R are two very different ways to enjoy the Aquanaut. Clients will decide considering when they'll wear it. Thanks for sharing how you see it Will! Best, Mark
Nice review, thanks Mark.
I like the complication and that's why my main (Patek) travel watch is 5134P. I am not normally a fan of a sporting watch made of prestigious metal. However, when I saw in last Baselworld 5164R, it made me think about this principle. I'm not a red gold gu...
Thank you Kari
This is indeed the comments I read often about this dual time display. The precious metal works really way with this reference indeed. We'll see what Basel 2017 will bring! Best, Mark
Lovely summary well timed ahead of the 20th anniversary
i am a fan of this reference but to be honest find the pricing a bit high. Mostly as I would have a preference for the 5980R or 5711R for roughly the same. I know we are not to speak money here but believe relative comparisons here are appropriate, if not...
I think I feel the same
There are Auquanaut fans and Nautilus'. I would be more attracted by the references you mention too. I noticed also that some people really like the Aquanaut because of its uniqueness and that brings in fact a quite very different offer. Btw, there is no ...
Patek
I agree with you guys on the pricing point .I was In that exact position 6months ago.I was looking for a rose gold PP and looked at the nautilus and aquanaut but decided on the 5712R. Iqbal
Hi Mark. Good review. What is the water resistance of the 5164r Aquanut?
Would want to know. Cheers.
date changes in both direction
Did not know that. It is an absolutely nice travel watch where the colours match beautifully. Thank you for the nice reading tine.
M. Barrat explained this Dual Time function when it was launched
and it was very interesting. The kind of element never written in a watch technical data but so important for us. I agree with you it is a very coherent watch. Thank you Mortiz! Best, Mark
Thank you for the review Mark. They are always meticulous and really instructive.
Only one thing "annoyed" me with this timepiece (and sporty watches in general). Why making a case with precious metal and more specifically yellow or rose gold and not only steel? For me, that\'s not consistent. In my opinion, sporty watch = steel or tit...
I think that it will depend on the person
Some people won't feel that a watch they new for a long time made of a certain metal, since childhood maybe, will feel it is not "ntaural". And that's compeltly fair, imagine a Seadweller Deepsea or a Comex in rose gold... In the mean time I think that fo...
You're right Mark
I\'m for diversity and if clients want a sporty watch in rose gold (or other precious metal) which can also be worn as a dressy one why not. That\'s not my cup of tea but I\'m probably not the typical customer Best wishes Alkiro
I simply love this watch!
Started wearing mine some 9 months back, my first post here . What I can say about this piece is that: comfort - it wears well in the tropical humidity the likes of Singapore on one end of the scale, and the cold of winter Calgary on the other end of the ...
I agree with all your points
and thank you for sharing your owner's exeperience. Your photos are great and show the interesting alternate finishing of the whole case. Let's see if there will be something new in Basel Thanks! Best, Mark
Excellent writeup
Great job covering this watch. You highlight some subtle touches I was not aware of, and at this level of watches it is all about the little things! Tried on the SS version a couple of times and am debating the 5164 vs. 5990. I like the chrono function of...
Thank you!
I think this is not the watch we talk the most about, though there is a large array of customers enjoying it. I tried the 5990 when it was launched. I love the Nautilus line so I may be biased but it is also a great contender for this Dual Time display. I...
I think the 5164 is the best travel watch available.
A very well thought out dual time complication, good water resistance and rubber strap to be more comfortable in the heat. Plus it looks good! I would choose the steel version, but the R is one of the few rose gold watches I would be comfortable wearing. ...
If we consider the technical details of this Dual Time complication
you may be right. The security and easy way to adjust it makes it maybe the best Dual Time feature today. The rose gold version is very appealing and remains quite "discreet" for a rose gold watch, compared to a classical design. It would be a version I w...
Rose gold sounds good!
I find the Aquanaut to be perfect, even in rose gold! It\'s not an alternative for the Nautilus. One can have both an Aquanaut and a Nautilus in my opinion. This 5164R is slowly becoming very tempting indeed...
It does!
There is always a little question about offering a sporty watch in a precious metal. Here, I think it works very well (as it would with a Nautilus). What you say about getting an Aquanaut next to a Nautilus is interesting and I must say I had this kind of...
Agreed!
I'm leaning towards another Aquanaut this year and thought of the 5167R... But will wait for what is in store at Basel later this month
The 5164 is a fantastic watch indeed!
I am wearing mine for more than 4 years now and everytime I take it out the safe I get stunned by the look of the dial and the whole appearance of this reference. It´s wearing perfectly well, either as a "tool watch" on the beach or even at business occas...
Thank you for your experience feedback
This is indeed a watch that can be worn in many sporty activites, very comfortable. Patek's rose gold colour is also not too red and more refined. Enjoy your watch well and thank you for the pics Best, Mark
Can't agree more with you on the dial!
I mostly enjoy the sense of \'depthness\' of dial. It\'s good to hear feedback from other 5164 owners too!
Why not have a gold version of a "sporty" watch? Rolex, arguably the King of sports watches
has found a large and appreciative clientele for colored gold versions of its sports watches. Have yet to see 5164 in RG, but have more than once seen 5167R. Surprise to me, that from a strictly aesthetic standpoint I actually prefer It to the steel versi...
This is indeed a very personal view
and on a few issues I notice how the perspective we have on watches can be very different. That's part of the charm of this hobby! I think that I may prefer also the R version. That's a funny outcome indeed. Thank you for sharing your thoughts about these...
5164R
the only issue i have with the 5164R is how close and non-distinct the 31 and the 1 are on the date wheel. this is much better done on the 5712R where the 1 is in red.
I think Aquanaut is a great addition to Patek's portfolio.
It's more sporty than Nautilus and less conservative too. I also like how it slips under the radar as most people aren't aware of its value. The svelte profile of 5167 makes it a great all-rounder for casual wear. But I also like the 5164 due to its symme...
It is a very good sum-up of what the Aquanaut is
As for a Nautilus with this dual time complication, aside of the 5990 that has also a chronograph function, it would be interesting, though I don't know if Patek would put side by side the Nautilus and the Aquanaut with the exact same complication. Now, w...
Thank you for posting these great shots, Mark.
A Nautilus made in the spirit of 5164 has some potential. It could replace the somewhat old 5712, if they wanted to make room for a new model within the same price range (relatively speaking). I honestly don't know whether I like the 5990, because I can't...
I really like the 60 minute counter of the 5990. You lose some functionality, but you gain readability as it's more intuitive.
I find the chrono on my 5980 very difficult to read, but I do have poor eyesight!