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Another great post with beautiful images. 5204 is of no interest to me at all, although I certainly appreciate the complication.
Although I much prefer 5970 in any metal to 5270, I like the 5270 a lot, particularly the dial layout, with only one function at each of the registers at 3 and 9. I also appreciate that the movement is fully in house. In the unlikely event that I were to acquire a 5270 my possible choices (no chin) would be R - silver dial, G - blue dial and P - green dial. Of those 3, my choice would probably be the P. I like the lacquered dial a lot. It's platinum and the dial is very open, without no tachometer (which IMO shows the lacquered element to its best advantage). Also the P is available pre-owned at an extremely attractive price, relative to 5970P and relative to 5270P's full retail price.
Trying on two green perpetual calendar chronographs
Being in Florence , Italy, since last Thursday, I paid a little visit to the local official Patek Philippe retailer, located on the legendary Ponte Vecchio . There, I was kindly offered to try on both the 5270P-014 and the 5204G-001 . I think the 5270 is ...
I confirm that this 5270P has the “it” factor
in the best of ways. I thought it would be loud, but it is simply beautiful. Best, Emmanuel
A great timepiece indeed,
but not well proportioned imo. And at this very high price point, I think interior angles should be featured on the movement. Best, Emmanuel
I have tried both at my AD
and yes, 5204 wears weird on the wrist due to its proportions. 5270P is nicer, but I felt that the green is too special for a regular daily use so I declined
I understand what you mean,
but I was surprised to find this green much more subtle and nice looking than I was expecting (I thought it would be loud). So I think I could wear it daily. Best, Emmanuel
I have a chance to try on a 5204 in RG.
Wow. Such wrist presence. That would be my choice.
Silver dial or brown dial?
Can you share any photos? The only thing I can say is that the case of the 5204 didn’t wear nicely on my 16 cm wrist. Best, Emmanuel
For some reason I am not a fan of the 'upside down' moon on the 5204...
...and thickness in a watch does matter...
Yes, I think the moon is another element
which makes the 5204 less attractive. Best, Emmanuel
I understand that.
They’re also featured on the 5270’s dial and on most (all?) recent PCs. My favorite PC with the cleanest dial and the most attractive case would be the 3448. Best, Emmanuel
Thanks Emmaneul for the contrast and comparison of the references !
The 5270J is warm and has a nice vintage feel ! The green seems louder in the photo but is good to hear about your opinion on the wrist. Complication wise 5204P is a gem but the thickness has always been a question for me. Out of the three, I prefer the 5...
Yes, 5270J and this green 5270P tell a completely different story.
J is all about vintage discretion, as you say, and green P is modern and eye-catching without being loud. I really don’t know which of the two I would choose. Best, Emmanuel
I wanted to say 5204…
But now that I have your feedback on the watch my reservations for it have picked up. Personally I wouldn’t bother with these two references. I’ll get a 5970 as it is still attainable. A 5004 reference is way less attainable now. Best Gatsby
5970 might be the way to go,
but if you want platinum, the price will probably be much higher than for a 5270. Even if I know how iconic this combination of complications is, I think I prefer them to be featured separately. I’m very happy with my Cornes de Vache and, as a PC, I think...
Yes, I was surprised too,
but didn’t take a photo of the store. I only photographed (and also visited) the VC Boutique. Best, Emmanuel ...
I am a big fan of...
both 5270 and 5204. I have the white and salmon 5270. The green is very attractive too. But 5204 is on a different level, although the G is a bit dull. My favourite is the platinum black dial. Btw, that 5270J looks awesome on your wrist.
5204P black dial must look stunning in real life,
but the case thickness doesn’t fit my wrist. 5270 wears much better for me. And you have two wonderful examples. I liked 5270J quite a bit but I also like the variants without tachymeter scale. And I wonder if I don’t prefer the two complications separate...
Yes. It is stunning, and it wears fine on the wrist too...
but the 5270 wears much better for me as well. The 5004 is even thicker but you don't hear much complain about it. Combining multiple complications is also a complication itself 😊 Here is the 5204P-011 I have tried. I was worried about the upside-down moo...
Yes, but the diameter being smaller (36.7 vs 40 mm)
and the thickness almost identical (over 14 mm) I wonder how it wears on the wrist…
Gorgeous. I understand why you find it very tempting.
Especially as it seems to wear well indeed on your wrist!
Another great post with beautiful images. 5204 is of no interest to me at all, although I certainly appreciate the complication.
Although I much prefer 5970 in any metal to 5270, I like the 5270 a lot, particularly the dial layout, with only one function at each of the registers at 3 and 9. I also appreciate that the movement is fully in house. In the unlikely event that I were to ...
Thank you, dear Patekova, to share your detailed thoughts on the 5270.
Like you, I like the less cluttered registers of the 5270 at 3 and 9 o’clock. And like you I think that the absence of tachymeter scale suits this dial well. However, even if I know how iconic this combination of complications is, I wonder if I don’t pref...
Dear Emmanuel- Often “less is more” and I think many people would prefer to separate the chronograph and perpetual calendar functions into 2 watches.
As far as Cornes de Vache, I think that it is about as good looking as a chronograph can be. I remember long ago when the original in yellow gold was highly desired and brought very high prices. A big congratulations on owning that beautiful watch and the...
Thank you for sharing your wonderful 3448, dear Patekova.
Because of the “padellone” case, because of the purity of the complication layout and because of the Dauphine hands, this reference is somehow ideal. Thank you for your kind words concerning the CdV and the 5098. Best, Emmanuel
I understand this preference.
The 5204 is an amazing piece in itself. It just doesn’t sit well on my wrist, unfortunately. Best, Emmanuel
5204 for me
I traded in my 5270G-001 to raise funds for my first 5204(R-011) and have never looked back. The 5204 fits me so well I have added another to my collection (5204G-001) and they are both in my daily rotation. No issues with fit on my wrist at all. 40mm cas...
Thank you so much for your detailed thoughts
and owner’s feedback on these watches. You obviously know them much better than I do and, as the 5204 fits your wrist perfectly, I guess there’s indeed no reason to prefer the 5270. All I can say is that during this try on experience, the 5204 didn’t feel...
5204
For me wears better on my 16.5cm wrist than the 5270. Can’t go wrong with either, just preference. ...
As you obviously own these watches (huge congratulations),
your feeling is more reliable than mine: judging by a single try-on session isn't enough. Both are undoubtedly wonderful references. And, as I missed your first post here 7 months ago, allow me to extend a very warm welcome to you on WatchProSite. Best, E...