I’ve joined the 188 Club...
For the first time, I am actually lost for words apart from the fact that I’m totally in awe of the timepiece. It has so many fine qualities that makes it a keeper. A lot has been spoken about it, but nonetheless here are the key reasons why I love it:
1. The watch is stealthy and by that I mean it looks simple but is actually complicated. All one needs to do is look past 8 seconds.
2. Modern looking watch but classically proportioned. I really adore the unique looking crown that resembles a champagne cork and muselet. The swooping hollowed lugs are another favorite feature of mine. They remind me of De Bethune in a none parallel way because the overall look of the watch is so avant-garde. 39.5mm diameter, 10.5mm height and 47mm from lug to lug. This is classically proportioned and would easily fit under the cuff. I like it like that because then it doesn’t scream for attention like other larger watches.
3. Movement aesthetics. Must I say more? It is the first ever movement to show the “Dutch gable roof” design and steel is hard to work hence my deep appreciation. I think it is unique, incredibly beautiful and cannot be repeated. For the novelty of it, I really think it deserves all my praise.
4. The history and heritage of the Oldenzaal church tower clock and remontoire linked to the creation of the said timepiece and its complication. The relevancy is high, and it is easy for a collector such as I to relate to it’s concept.
Are there any criticisms? I honestly doubt so. Although I would’ve thought that I could’ve entertained the following:
1. Slightly larger case at 40.5mm. A modern watch can afford to look a bit larger
2. Given its proportions I would’ve liked the lug to buckle dimensions as 20/16mm
But then again, the above is hardly considered criticism.
So...I’ll let the ‘dirty’ photos do a bit of talking:
And now catching the evening sun:
I opted for the white gold case just for variability sake against the stainless steel movement. A colorless metal means I can wear it to the office without people paying too much attention to it. I chose the dark blue guilloche dial firstly because I appreciate the textured look and the uniform blue dial provides understatedness. It is just great to know beneath this understatedness is a truly great watch. Stealth, as we would put it.
Thanks for allowing me to share my thoughts. Wishing all of you a happy Friday and a lovely weekend in advance.
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I’ve joined the 188 Club...
For the first time, I am actually lost for words apart from the fact that I’m totally in awe of the timepiece. It has so many fine qualities that makes it a keeper. A lot has been spoken about it, but nonetheless here are the key reasons why I love it: 1....
Gronefeld... going up and up in recognition
Nice down to earth brothers too. I like the special finish of their movements and of course their creativity, rooted in historic European watchmaking Congratulations, this must be quite an eventful acquisition for you!
Indeed I share your sentiment on movement finishing. The aesthetics of it is really unique
This is my favorite version by far! Wear it in good health!
Congrats! It's fantastic!
I recently purchased a principia and its quickly become my favorite watch I've EVER owned. I love the brand and cant wait to see what they come up with next.
Congrats to OP and to you sir
Been mulling a principia or a remontoire In salmon dial Unfortunately, remontoire can only be bought at secondary market So taking my time
Hope to chat with you more. You have a wonderfully curated collection and would be nice to exchange thoughts.
Thank you Fab :-)
Indeed, my attention has been largely centered around independents over the last 2 years and it does feel like the portfolio is a little indie heavy at the moment. I am often immensely attracted towards the attention to detail, the level of quality and th...
Is that SS or WG? I am really curious to know how many combinations of the 1941 Remontoire are out there.
Surprisingly more than I would have thought. I was lucky to get 1/1. Enjoy yours in the best of health!
I hear you mate
Less is more. I am however a little more tolerant in this case with the “8 second Remontoire” text. Because it is not immediately obvious that the watch is a 8 second Remontoire, hence the text does serve to educate the user. But I do agree with you. With...
I was very very close on one of these (non Kari dial) almost three years ago now. I’m sorry I didn’t pull the trigger. In part I hesitated as I expected these to be somewhat available in the future, even allowing for the small numbers. Of course they are ...
Jay thank you for your kind words
What a bummer, I wish you pulled the trigger. They do surface out from time to time and I am quite sure asking prices wouldn’t deviate too far from retail price (unless of course you’re ACM or other large grey dealers of that sort). Shoot me an email at g...
Congrats! Awesome new pick up!
I'm a big fan and agree in wishing for something a little bigger. I'd be a customer at 41-42mm (in case the brothers are watching 😋)
On the contrary I do hope that if they change the size, it should be a different watch altogether I think it is always better to have less options. Giving the consumer too much freedom can end up being a bad thing. I cannot pin point exactly, but qualitat...
Ahhh there you are :-))
Thank you sir for your kind comments. Hope to see more photos of your watch — it’s a beauty. Interested to hear your experience with it and why you bought yours in the first place.
Congratulations on this special acquisition!
I tried on a couple of them and lined them very much, and the movement is something else, very special! I appreciated the solid feel and the smooth winding. But for me 39mm is just perfect! Enjoy it forever... Zsolt.
I did not buy direct from the brothers but rather through an AD. Was a fairly short wait. Looking forward to seeing you get yours. What dial and case combination did you opt for ?
One of my favorite watches of all time, and I love the way that they were able to do the guilloche in a way that looks very modern.
Lovely photos of a stunning watch!
The watch fits your wrist well and a larger 40.5mm case would have been too large. I will join the 188 club next year but I have opted for the simpler silver dial. Yours of course is very nice but I preferred an even more understated dial.
Sham I do not blame you
We have GaryG to blame. I thought his write up on quill and pad on the said watch is pretty accurate in terms of how I actually do feel about it. He opted for a SS case and a silver dial. I too, find this combo to be very attractive. The simpler the bette...
Yes I too read Gary G's article
and am awaiting for my stainless steel case Remontoire. In fact, I am so into Gronefeld that I am tempted on ordering a Principa too
The Remontoire is fast becoming a favorite complication of mine. I love the idea of having a fuss free life. Complications are not for me. The only complication I love is the chronograph. But I like increasingly like the idea of the Remontoire.
Merci mon ami 🙏🏼🙏🏼
I am in seven heaven, as you can imagine ! I will post a photo of my blue dial kari with this soon. They make a lovely pair together
Horological art, if you ask me. The bridges of the movement in those Grönefeld brothers watches remind me of canal houses of Amsterdam. Enjoy it in health! Regards, George
Thank you George
That is exactly the reason why I feel they have created immense value out of the movement. The aesthetics is not only beautiful but also highly relatable.
Actually most probably my preferred version amongst all variations. Enjoy it and wear it in good health)
It is indeed an awesome watch for all the reasons you mentioned. Like you I love the dial, the hands, the case (especially the lugs) and most of all, the mesmerizingly beautiful movement. I have the salmon version of yours, also in SS, and it makes me smi...
Yours is such a great example m. Congrats mate — a real beauty you have