I’ve joined the 188 Club...

Jul 30, 2020,13:27 PM

For the first time, I am actually lost for words apart from the fact that I’m totally in awe of the timepiece. It has so many fine qualities that makes it a keeper. A lot has been spoken about it, but nonetheless here are the key reasons why I love it:

1. The watch is stealthy and by that I mean it looks simple but is actually complicated. All one needs to do is look past 8 seconds.

2. Modern looking watch but classically proportioned. I really adore the unique looking crown that resembles a champagne cork and muselet. The swooping hollowed lugs are another favorite feature of mine. They remind me of De Bethune in a none parallel way because the overall look of the watch is so avant-garde. 39.5mm diameter, 10.5mm height and 47mm from lug to lug. This is classically proportioned and would easily fit under the cuff. I like it like that because then it doesn’t scream for attention like other larger watches.

3. Movement aesthetics. Must I say more? It is the first ever movement to show the “Dutch gable roof” design and steel is hard to work hence my deep appreciation. I think it is unique, incredibly beautiful and cannot be repeated. For the novelty of it, I really think it deserves all my praise.

4. The history and heritage of the Oldenzaal church tower clock and remontoire linked to the creation of the said timepiece and its complication. The relevancy is high, and it is easy for a collector such as I to relate to it’s concept.

Are there any criticisms? I honestly doubt so. Although I would’ve thought that I could’ve entertained the following:

1. Slightly larger case at 40.5mm. A modern watch can afford to look a bit larger

2. Given its proportions I would’ve liked the lug to buckle dimensions as 20/16mm

But then again, the above is hardly considered criticism.

So...I’ll let the ‘dirty’ photos do a bit of talking:

And now catching the evening sun:

I opted for the white gold case just for variability sake against the stainless steel movement. A colorless metal means I can wear it to the office without people paying too much attention to it. I chose the dark blue guilloche dial firstly because I appreciate the textured look and the uniform blue dial provides understatedness. It is just great to know beneath this understatedness is a truly great watch. Stealth, as we would put it.

Thanks for allowing me to share my thoughts. Wishing all of you a happy Friday and a lovely weekend in advance.


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Thank you Ted 🙏🏼

 By: Mr.Gatsby : July 30th, 2020-13:35
It truly is quite special...

Yes!!! It is. [nt]

 By: Ted-Lo : July 30th, 2020-13:47

Gronefeld... going up and up in recognition

 By: VinnieD : July 30th, 2020-13:38
Nice down to earth brothers too. I like the special finish of their movements and of course their creativity, rooted in historic European watchmaking Congratulations, this must be quite an eventful acquisition for you!

Thanks Vinnie

 By: Mr.Gatsby : July 31st, 2020-01:26
Indeed I share your sentiment on movement finishing. The aesthetics of it is really unique

Wow congrats!

 By: Watchmatician : July 30th, 2020-13:49
This is my favorite version by far! Wear it in good health!

Congrats! It's fantastic!

 By: hanke : July 30th, 2020-14:03
I recently purchased a principia and its quickly become my favorite watch I've EVER owned. I love the brand and cant wait to see what they come up with next.

Congratulations on the Principia, Hanke

 By: Mr.Gatsby : July 31st, 2020-01:29
Which dial and case combo did you choose ? Please share some photos !

Congrats to OP and to you sir

 By: pongster : August 1st, 2020-03:44
Been mulling a principia or a remontoire In salmon dial Unfortunately, remontoire can only be bought at secondary market So taking my time

Shukran sir

 By: Mr.Gatsby : July 31st, 2020-01:33
Hope to chat with you more. You have a wonderfully curated collection and would be nice to exchange thoughts.

Thank you , I’m at your disposal any time

 By: Mohannad (aka Riddler) : July 31st, 2020-01:43

Thank you for posting your thoughts on this beautiful piece...

 By: Cpt Scarlet : July 30th, 2020-14:36
Keep enjoying it in good health.

Thanks buddy :-) nt [nt]

 By: Mr.Gatsby : July 31st, 2020-01:33

Thank you Fab :-)

 By: Mr.Gatsby : July 31st, 2020-01:57
Indeed, my attention has been largely centered around independents over the last 2 years and it does feel like the portfolio is a little indie heavy at the moment. I am often immensely attracted towards the attention to detail, the level of quality and th... 

Truly a beautiful watch

 By: watch-er : July 30th, 2020-15:03
Wear and enjoy!

Thanks mate :-) nt [nt]

 By: Mr.Gatsby : July 31st, 2020-01:57

Congrats and welcome to the club!

 By: NautNut : July 30th, 2020-15:27
Mine says hey ...  

Beautiful :-)

 By: Mr.Gatsby : July 31st, 2020-01:59
Is that SS or WG? I am really curious to know how many combinations of the 1941 Remontoire are out there.


 By: NautNut : July 31st, 2020-09:07
Surprisingly more than I would have thought. I was lucky to get 1/1. Enjoy yours in the best of health!

Haven't tried one on...I would have asked to delete the 'eight seconds...' text on the dial...

 By: mdg : July 30th, 2020-15:34
...everything else look exemplary. Wear it in great health : )

I hear you mate

 By: Mr.Gatsby : July 31st, 2020-02:02
Less is more. I am however a little more tolerant in this case with the “8 second Remontoire” text. Because it is not immediately obvious that the watch is a 8 second Remontoire, hence the text does serve to educate the user. But I do agree with you. With... 

At least it's not like some (looking at you Chopard)...

 By: mdg : July 31st, 2020-12:25
...dials that label things 'day,' 'date,' 'month.' My feeling is, the owner knows how the thing works... : )

A huge congrats with your stunning and gorgeous 1941 dear friend

 By: Watchonthewrist : July 30th, 2020-15:39
Like you said there isn’t much to complain about with such a amazing watch and design imho. Glad you good join the 188 club .mine says hi ...  

Ahhh, hello there my friend :-)))

 By: Mr.Gatsby : July 31st, 2020-02:04
Nice to photos of your Remontoire here. Thank you for your kind words.

Many congrats.

 By: Jay (Eire) : July 30th, 2020-15:57
I was very very close on one of these (non Kari dial) almost three years ago now. I’m sorry I didn’t pull the trigger. In part I hesitated as I expected these to be somewhat available in the future, even allowing for the small numbers. Of course they are ... 

Jay thank you for your kind words

 By: Mr.Gatsby : July 31st, 2020-02:07
What a bummer, I wish you pulled the trigger. They do surface out from time to time and I am quite sure asking prices wouldn’t deviate too far from retail price (unless of course you’re ACM or other large grey dealers of that sort). Shoot me an email at g... 

Congrats! Awesome new pick up!

 By: Fastwong : July 30th, 2020-16:00
I'm a big fan and agree in wishing for something a little bigger. I'd be a customer at 41-42mm (in case the brothers are watching 😋)

Thanks mate

 By: Mr.Gatsby : July 31st, 2020-02:11
On the contrary I do hope that if they change the size, it should be a different watch altogether I think it is always better to have less options. Giving the consumer too much freedom can end up being a bad thing. I cannot pin point exactly, but qualitat... 

Congrats - It's an incredible piece

 By: dmv4star : July 30th, 2020-16:21
Welcome to the club, I've had mine for ~18 months and still find myself checking out under a loop when it comes up in rotation

Ahhh there you are :-))

 By: Mr.Gatsby : July 31st, 2020-02:12
Thank you sir for your kind comments. Hope to see more photos of your watch — it’s a beauty. Interested to hear your experience with it and why you bought yours in the first place.

Congratulations on this special acquisition!

 By: ZSHSZ : July 30th, 2020-16:32
I tried on a couple of them and lined them very much, and the movement is something else, very special! I appreciated the solid feel and the smooth winding. But for me 39mm is just perfect! Enjoy it forever... Zsolt.

Thank you Zsolt for your words

 By: Mr.Gatsby : July 31st, 2020-02:14
Much appreciated ! Indeed I feel that the size is perfect for me too.

Congratulations and thanks for posting!

 By: Monopole : July 30th, 2020-17:35
I am still waiting for mine - probably one of the last 188 orders. Did you have to wait long?

Hello mate

 By: Mr.Gatsby : July 31st, 2020-02:15
I did not buy direct from the brothers but rather through an AD. Was a fairly short wait. Looking forward to seeing you get yours. What dial and case combination did you opt for ?


 By: jleno : July 30th, 2020-17:58
One of my favorite watches of all time, and I love the way that they were able to do the guilloche in a way that looks very modern.

Thank you mate :-) nt [nt]

 By: Mr.Gatsby : July 31st, 2020-02:18

Thanks Pauli nt [nt]

 By: Mr.Gatsby : July 31st, 2020-02:18

Obeezy thank you :-)

 By: Mr.Gatsby : July 31st, 2020-02:19
Do share some photos of yours ! ;-)

That is just a beauty. One of the nicest engine -turned dial I ever saw.

 By: hoseachandra : July 30th, 2020-18:35
IMO is a modern interpretation of classique Breguet, with some twist. Congartulations , and wear it in good health.

Thank you Hosea

 By: Mr.Gatsby : July 31st, 2020-02:21
Your interpretation of it is apt.

Lovely photos of a stunning watch!

 By: sham1 : July 30th, 2020-18:42
The watch fits your wrist well and a larger 40.5mm case would have been too large. I will join the 188 club next year but I have opted for the simpler silver dial. Yours of course is very nice but I preferred an even more understated dial.

Sham I do not blame you

 By: Mr.Gatsby : July 31st, 2020-02:24
We have GaryG to blame. I thought his write up on quill and pad on the said watch is pretty accurate in terms of how I actually do feel about it. He opted for a SS case and a silver dial. I too, find this combo to be very attractive. The simpler the bette... 

Yes I too read Gary G's article

 By: sham1 : July 31st, 2020-03:46
and am awaiting for my stainless steel case Remontoire. In fact, I am so into Gronefeld that I am tempted on ordering a Principa too

The Gronefeld brothers make such gorgeous watches!

 By: BigAppleBill : July 30th, 2020-18:43
Their remontoire is such a marvel of engineering and craftsmanship. I’m very envious. Congrats on a terrific acquisition!

Thanks Bill

 By: Mr.Gatsby : July 31st, 2020-02:26
The Remontoire is fast becoming a favorite complication of mine. I love the idea of having a fuss free life. Complications are not for me. The only complication I love is the chronograph. But I like increasingly like the idea of the Remontoire.

Very nice dial and movement !

 By: jrwong23 : July 30th, 2020-20:15
Enjoy mate ! And congrats ! Cheers Robin

Thank you Robin for your kind words

 By: Mr.Gatsby : July 31st, 2020-02:26
Much appreciated

Huge congratulations ! it is a beautiful timepiece...the dial is drop dead gorgeous !!

 By: mahesh : July 30th, 2020-22:39
Enjoy in the best of your health.... Best, mahesh.,

Merci mon ami 🙏🏼🙏🏼

 By: Mr.Gatsby : July 31st, 2020-02:27
I am in seven heaven, as you can imagine ! I will post a photo of my blue dial kari with this soon. They make a lovely pair together

Wonderful piece

 By: George Gently : July 30th, 2020-22:48
Horological art, if you ask me. The bridges of the movement in those Grönefeld brothers watches remind me of canal houses of Amsterdam. Enjoy it in health! Regards, George

Thank you George

 By: Mr.Gatsby : July 31st, 2020-02:29
That is exactly the reason why I feel they have created immense value out of the movement. The aesthetics is not only beautiful but also highly relatable.

Thank you mate nt [nt]

 By: Mr.Gatsby : July 31st, 2020-02:29

What a stunner!

 By: A-Web : July 31st, 2020-03:02
Use it in good health!

Thank you :-) [nt]

 By: Mr.Gatsby : August 4th, 2020-10:36

Beautiful, but what does

 By: Thomas_3 : July 31st, 2020-06:56
8 Seconds Remontoire mean?

Cheers mate :-) [nt]

 By: Mr.Gatsby : August 4th, 2020-10:36

A masterpiece of a watch

 By: matto1 : July 31st, 2020-16:02
and with that dial, at the top of my list!

Thank you sir :-) [nt]

 By: Mr.Gatsby : August 4th, 2020-10:35

Huge congrats

 By: Mike H : July 31st, 2020-16:14
Actually most probably my preferred version amongst all variations. Enjoy it and wear it in good health)


 By: NT931 : August 4th, 2020-06:33
It is indeed an awesome watch for all the reasons you mentioned. Like you I love the dial, the hands, the case (especially the lugs) and most of all, the mesmerizingly beautiful movement. I have the salmon version of yours, also in SS, and it makes me smi...  


 By: Mr.Gatsby : August 4th, 2020-10:35
Yours is such a great example m. Congrats mate — a real beauty you have

Congrats Gatsby!

 By: seehoo : August 5th, 2020-07:59
Good to finally see you sharing your acquisition! Cheers Mate!

Welcome to the club!

 By: benlee338 : August 8th, 2020-08:29
Looks fantastic!