MTR
8918
I feel basically the same.
Regardless supply and demand some prices have become ... ridiculous (I.e. Nautilus).
On the other hand I feel that the prices of a new Rolex sports watch are not that bad. The problem seems to be an artificial (?) shortage and as a result the grey market. And also the behavior of some ADs of which I had the „pleasure“ to read here (claiming to buy 1-2 less attractive pieces to be able to get the model you really want).
Best, Thomas
Pricing Themselves Out??
Just sharing a personal opinion. Do many of you ever thing that some watch manufacturers are pricing themselves out of the market, or at least out of reach for most people. Rolex prices are out of reach for a lot of people as are Patek Philippe, I see a n...
Another question is whether the non-top tier brands (from a public demand perspective) have been pricing themselves out.
PP, Rolex, some APs, RM, etc. seem to be doing fine with their pricing models. Grey market prices at or above MSRP (for many models) easily demonstrates this. And these brands' seeming ability to drive sales to non-halo pieces by leveraging high-demand pi...
I believe the price of a watch
is not so much down to the metal used but the work that has gone into the research and development (in the case of the steel Calatrava - the movement is new), the quality of the movement,dial and the case. A steel Gronefeld Remontoire for example is only ...
Well I think rolex is too cheap
they could ask 20-30% more for their steel professional watches Just like patek did with the Nautilus Besides, looking at some other brands ... 8.3k for a submariner is not that much... or maybe all the rest is too expensive 😁
Don't try to justify any of it!
A rubber strap from any number of brands here could cost $300, while you could get a giant radial tire, designed to drive 100+ MPH and drive for 30,000 miles for less. None of it is justified besides people want it and are willing to pay for it.
New strap
I usually buy an aftermarket strap, which could be better, and save the $300 strap as "new".
I always compare it with shoes
A leather panerai or patek strap... 200-300 euro LOL A good pair of shoes like church, Santoni , Vass or crocket & Jones is between 500 and 700 It takes at least 10 times more time to make the shoes and it needs 30 times more leather A good strap should c...
I was just on the Bell & Ross site looking at replacement straps, there's the OEM rubber that came on it for $125 or an alligator for $360.
I can find alligator for less, and for the rubber I'll cut up an old bicycle inner tube Hell, at those prices maybe I'll consider getting into the strap business.
Follow the economic gains...
We’ve all seen the charts showing that the gains of recent economic growth are not distributed evenly. Luxury watch pricing reflects this reality. I remember going to Guy Savoy in Las Vegas in 2009/2010 and being unsettled with the price of the truffle an...
Your last sentence exactly!
Rolex for example is not something that you can save for anymore. I mean you can but there will be none to be had.. it has loosely become sort of an application piece. Sure you can buy pre owned over list yeah but then what if you want that boutique exper...
Very true. But makes me think....
...that if watches go the way of Vegas, we shouldn‘t be surprised if they find the same audience.
It's not the ridicules price level,-
it all the BS that goes into trying to justify it, that really makes me misanthropist. Jacob
I feel basically the same.
Regardless supply and demand some prices have become ... ridiculous (I.e. Nautilus). On the other hand I feel that the prices of a new Rolex sports watch are not that bad. The problem seems to be an artificial (?) shortage and as a result the grey market....
Agreed, ive been noticing this more often as well. Rolex, Omega, Seiko even have started charging huge sums for what is a 60-70s era technology
imagine buying a new 2019 Honda Civic and enjoy its 1970s 1170cc engine and its amazing 2019 price tag and having the pleasure of waiting a couple years to be able to buy, no one would stand for that Just my thoughts and observations, meaning to continue ...
Steel PP is always expensive, that's a fact :(
Prices increase every time, new buyers (getting younger and younger) CAN afford these prices, maybe they make tons of money from youtube/instagram/virtual currencies/FX and splurge. OR they borrow money just to buy and flaunt in their social media account...
Buying a PP is for yr next generation. Hahaha
My kids do not need me to pass them a PP. ; ) But I do have an infatuation for green or blue aquanaut. Hehehe
Interesting topic
I generally share your sentiment. Without even thinking too much about it, I feel that watches are largely over priced basis two things. Firstly, we face steep competition as consumers these days are spoilt for choice with many products including smart wa...