MichaelC
[AP Moderator]
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I am not yet familiar with the threads you refer to. But I will state this -
Sadly, we have a good handful of members who enjoy negativity. They find pleasure in making smart-ass remarks and being overly cynical. It never used to be like that in the old days, and it is the one part of this community I don't care for. Fortunately, the good far outweigh the bad.
We have never been about censorship. Again, I have not read the specific threads you refer to, but also keep in mind sometimes things go back much farther than just one thread. Being a Mod is not as easy as it might seem. Think back to all the recent threads on the CODE11.59. I did not edit, lock, or delete any remarks. Probably 90% negative, and that is perfectly fine. Not my job to protect AP or any other brand. But when I read something so asinine from a jackass member saying Francois Bennahmias should resign over this new collection being released, are you kidding me? That it ludicrous. Did an educated man or woman really write that? Maybe a schoolkid? Who knows. I choose to find humor in such a poster revealing their true self. "Consider the source" - one of my Dad's best expressions. Quite applicable in this day and age.
Too much censorship?
Yes, I think so. In the past, I have refrained from commenting on the deletion or locking of threads for IMO doubtful reasons. Today, two threads were locked again for what reason? Why should members comment on posts and/or watches of other members only i...
Well, no one say you only should reply positive...
Tone is key here. To have difference of opinions happens all the time... You can have that without being rude to others. Best Blomman
I agree with you 100%, Blomman.
But this is not what Imran said. I quote: “If you don’t like it, keep your opinion to yourself please.” Excuse me! I simply don’t accept that. On top of that, this isn’t Imran’s first debacle as Patek moderator. I remember very well the times when Mark wa...
Volker
Please try to put yourself in shoes of mj23 and Imran Please try to understand how someone feels when he has been trashed for no reason and how someone feels when he is doing his best to make and keep things civilised and in return he gets childish behavi...
Enter boring into a online thesaurus and you will get stronger alternatives, even offensive ones
Firstly: it is your website. Secondly: it is nothing without members. Members need to feel free to express views and not fear to be baned, for nothing. I have seen here islamophobic posts and other horrible posts that did not result in a ban. A view of a ...
Please point me to this posts and please see if this members are still around
I think you are jumping to conclusions here. Cheers
For instance: Patek issued a Mecca WT and a member said "Oooh, no. How could only Patek do something like that."
Also: during the Syrian refugee crisis a very, very often posting nember said that they are all rapists. I would not want to see them baned because we have to accept other views albeit they are at times against the law in the country I live in. A view tha...
Would you be so kind and send me links to this posts via PM
Also in this posts there were no reaction by Mods?
It is too late for me to do this now.
I will search for them and try to find hem for you tomorrow.
Additional and this is not just pointed at you now
I would really be ultimately happy to see more original review posts by you and many others making their statement and comparing watches based on holding them in hands trying to see how they can write review...and then I'm sure when going in depth like ma...
I am very proud to have been The Editors Pick once at the Patek forum and twice at the Lange forum
for three very interesting reviews/posts that I have contributed. I"achieved" this only because I love this place here and I would love it to be a free place. As an owner of the Ellipse I had also people saying "derogative" (maybe a bit too strong express...
Yes we all wanna this place to be FREE Mods most of all that's why we are doing all this for you guys but
taking someone else freedom in process isn't freedom we strive to. Freedom without rules doesn't work. And communities do not work unless there are regulated by etiquette. It is how it is specially in on-line communities devoted of physical contact...in r...
Same here. I’ve seen here unappropriated posts, noticed them to people on duty and nothing happened.
This is how it is. I still appreciated the forum and I’m confused.
Tyo...my response to you
Hi Tyo, Please see my reply to Count de Monet and to Pretty Boy. If there are examples of racism or sexism on this forum that have been missed by a Moderator, it is not because it is being allowed. Please point out any such situation to a Mod and they wil...
Count de Monet...my response to you
Count, please read my reply to Volker above. With respect to your comments on Islamophobia..... What I can say is that being a Moderator on this forum is NOT my main job. In fact, I do not get paid a single penny to Moderate on this forum. I do it out of ...
Censorship...
I am perplexed how “celebrating” the Nautilus can be a reason to block my post.
Did you read mj23 thread and then Imran thread?
I think you did based on title of your post...
I have read Imran’s post and...
In my opinion Imran has a deep love for Patek. Celebrating the Nautilus is a positive message about the design of Gerald Genta who created and designed some of the most iconic and precious mechanical timepieces of the contemporary history.
Cpt Scarlet......
As MichaelC pointed out below, some members just seem to enjoy pushing the envelope as much as they can. Stirring up situations and generally being the guy who stands just on the line of acceptability. These members have nothing better to do. The post by ...
Baron - Kindly retract your statement
You have directly accused me of inciting a situation. This is incorrect. I feel that you have made it a personal atttack on me, stating that “doing so was beneath you”. This behaviour from a moderator is unacceptable. Firstly, for the record, I played no ...
Oh please....
You did incite the situation, and that was something that another Moderator picked up on also. Are you going to threaten me like you threatened the other Moderator? As for allowing the original problem to persist, I think you do not know all the facts. I ...
Thanks Damjan
Yes, i see what happened here, and I stand with you in how you acted. This was not a post to be placed in the aftermath of what turned out to be a very fractious discussion. It appears most likely as an act of incitement.
As a non-Mod, I have been sitting out this one, as I feel it is not up to me to get involved.
But, once certain thresholds are crossed, I will always speak up. The following is my opinion, and mine alone. There is absolutely no place on this forum, where racism, bigotry, condescension, and/or any other forms of bullying should be allowed. I come h...
As a non-mod I, too, have been sitting this one out
But had I said anything, I could not have said it better than you just said it, Mr. White. Bravo! NickO
I just hope as many members as possible
will read this post of yours with open heart. Thanks for the support all this years!
It’s always been the wonderful people that make this place what it is.
Once the human decency is gone, so am I.
Dear Damjan...
Hope you are well my friend.....unfortunately this post highlights why I stopped posting. The world is now full of people who for some reason want to spread negativity and defend this by saying it is their right to say what they want. Such a shame. Take c...
Dear friend so good to see you here again
Please keep a faith in us and this place..good will prevail if we stand and fight together. Truly hope you are doing well! Can hardly imagine what your collection look like now... would love to see a glimpse of it. Yours D
My dear friend
I do look around the forum so I do see you Yes the collection has increased but it wouldn't be popular around these parts going by comments I've seen..!! Ha ha Yes I'm good and if you pop to London let me know and I'll pop down to see you. A.
Andy, I don’t know you as I am a fairly new member.
But I truly am sorry to read about another member leaving the site due to such comments. From what others say, we all should look forward to you coming back. And we shall all together make this community stronger and more tolerant.
you make a great point Andy
Freedom of expression is not a carte blanche to be rude. Come back.
Since my posts are mentioned, here is my tuppence
In my opinion most people who visit this page do so for education, for the pleasure of seeing the finest and also to share the timepieces that are a source of pride and joy. It is easy sometimes to forget that we are only discussing watches (wines, cars, ...
Thanks for post Benjamin
No bad intention from my side in quoting your reply. Things have changed around for better here as I hope you see. Yes let's keep things civil and please keep posting. Cheers D
Damjan, many thanks for taking the time to reply.
I agree that the discussion got a bit heated up. Ideally, this shouldn’t happen. But I think that members should be able to deal with that by themselves, unless there’s really discriminatory content etc. Also, I think locking or deleting threads should be...
I haven't seen the threads in question...
But it's not hard to imagine what happened. In my opinion, if someone asks for the group's opinion on a watch or posts about a new watch that has been released then negative opinions are fair game. But if someone posts about their own watch and doesn't as...
If someone has already acquired a piece and is proud of it by taking a photo, it would be unfair to say how insignificant that piece is
That is generally known as the social etiquette. Rudeness should not be allowed but opinion should. In that particular post no opinion about the watch was asked by the OP. However, I do disagree with censorship. A forum would not be a forum without its me...
It comes down to...
If someone says I’m not a big fan of this watch or brand...fine, big deal watch directed opinions are valid as opposed to saying man (or woman) YOU are an idiot for buying this watch or YOU have bad taste etc....not cool.
I am not yet familiar with the threads you refer to. But I will state this -
Sadly, we have a good handful of members who enjoy negativity. They find pleasure in making smart-ass remarks and being overly cynical. It never used to be like that in the old days, and it is the one part of this community I don't care for. Fortunately, ...
Volker..... my response to you
When you join a club, you do so in the knowledge that the club has rules and that your willingness to join that club implies that you accept those rules. In the case of this forum, one of the well-known rules is that members are asked to treat other membe...
I been banned in quite a few websites prior to joining here. We just need to be polite. Some will alway write things that will offend others or challenge others like did Rolex every use ETA
To me yes! Rolex did use ETA in Tudor! So people opinions are alway different. Just be accommodating. If others just want to have their viewpoint to be heard in to stamp their authority on things they think is right, so be it. Dun waste a breath over thre...