Jay (Eire)
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I would note on the Bamford Ceramic watch…
…first the pricing, with the ceramic bracelet, was US$16k or so which feels like it was very competitive to other all ceramic options.
And second, that watch I believe was sold at Dover Street Market (arguably the retail Mecca of fashion cool) and Harrods. Given this I would not be surprised if these watches ended up on the wrists of folks that may not be so attuned to the secondary market for watches and therefore not likely to offload a watch like this.
Thirdly, any all white ceramic watch is veering more towards the fashion buyer or accessory buyer than the every day watch buyer. Something I think reflected by the choice of points of sale noted above and which may also bolster the idea that not many buyers would be offloading these down the line.
Love the retro logo
Similar to the Orange Zenith Defy Revival it's a bit too colourful for me but in toned down version would work, for me...
Same thoughts exactly
As often happens when you compare to Zenith, though, the price on this one looks a bit hard to justify.
I don’t get it either
Not a stupid question at all. Bamford has money. I’m sure they need to help foot the dev costs and such. Also commit to certain number of pieces. The Bamford Ghost laureato white ceramic did quite well on the market but only 88 pieces made in white cerami...
Was going to ask the exact same question.
I didn’t realize there had been a previous collaboration with Bamford. (That white ceramic Laureato, 38mm, is quite cool).
Very puzzling
First they could have done it alone, I don't see what Bamford adds to the mix, no disrespect to them. Then sure it's an original reissue but the price is extravagant for what's on offer. I don't know, maybe the laureato anniversary will be more enticing.
Agreed. The Bamford partnership takes away from it for me.
Totally unnecessary. GP should have done this particular model alone.
It’s a colab
https://www.girard-perregaux.com/deep-diver?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAafVJHvnh-KlUZRtlY9O9F5CmDwe3T3pSnXuBEkMdTkRCPpRvfVxk7VO68J23A_aem_cLQO0QPb0_4RLLhR4fGxHg
Cushion cases from GP
20 years since we saw the last one made. Neo vintage 2499 with 180 pieces made in the silver dial. So it’s good to see cushion cases back in vogue. 🤝 ...
Nice “reissue” but…
Am afraid it’s way overpriced. There are much better options from Rolex (at least RRP), Omega and other brands at similar price point
Comparison with diving watches from Rolex
Sub ND, Sub, etc. If it’s watches with similar features, JLC and IWC offer better value IMO
I thought you were going to say the bright colored dial OPs
Those are closer to being competitors to this watch than the Submariner is.
A faithful reissue
Cool, funky vintage vibe. I would have done white lume in the hands to make it more legible. Also, the Bamford branding on the dial is a miss for me. Looking forward to the Laureato 50th. Thanks for sharing Marc
Welcome
This current lume goes blue in the dark. Personally, I would have thought fauxtina to mimic tritium. 🤝
At a basic level when I saw it earlier I thought “pretty cool, fun, watch”.
I do like cushion case, and that retro vibe. But I have a bit of a disconnect on the price. To be fair to GP, I have the same disconnect on a lot of pricing over the last several years. But more broadly, if a watch like this can capture folks attention (w...
Understand.
If there was a PP on the dial, the price would be fine. The question for me is to see how these hold their secondary market prices. 🤝
Great looking Girard Perregaux Deep Diver.
As I have already commented on the other post I won't repeat it all here suffice to say love the watch and the small details like the cross hatch crowns and emblem on the case back hate Bamford on the dial and IMHO the insane pricing. Hopefully a regular ...
Marc, seriously good homage but…
Whats the role of Bamford? The GP3300 movement is nothing new/exciting as well. A bit put off by the price but what do I know? At 350 units, it will probably move?
I understand your points
I’ve responded above about why Bamford. I too don’t see the immediate value add beyond financial. Will the 350 units move … ? I really don’t know. I’m not into diving watches myself so I won’t be a buyer. I continue to focus on neo-vintage. 🤝 ...
Marc, I’m copying and pasting my reply from the other GP thread here :
The price is not a surprise to me. Look at what happens to GP prices in the secondary market after it’s been out for a year or two. Will be available for 40-50% off MSRP in the future. This is the same thing that happened to Laureato pricing in the second...
It depends …
Hi Jesse, First of all, neo vintage prices are holding or going up. They can’t make more. Next, the bamford laureato ghost is next to impossible to find and the prices are high. Higher than what they were sold at. So it depends. Rarity play a big part in ...
I would note on the Bamford Ceramic watch…
…first the pricing, with the ceramic bracelet, was US$16k or so which feels like it was very competitive to other all ceramic options. And second, that watch I believe was sold at Dover Street Market (arguably the retail Mecca of fashion cool) and Harrods...
Very thorough and logical response Marc
The difference is, the Laureatos I’ve owned have all been made at (relatively) high volume. To your point, when GP introduce many different variants and start to flood the market with 20 different versions of the 42 mm Laureato, the market tends to get sa...
Welcome 🍻
I think the most important thing to wrap your mind around is this … the drastic drop in production pieces is because of bundling. This is the root of all evil. Any production GP is likely to get bundled. If you get that first point. The next point is the ...
Like the overall design…
But find it quite chunky, i.e. too large for my wrist. But glad there’s a new sign of life from the brand 👍🏻
I feel the same way
Cushion cases from GP last seen 20 years ago. Elegant. This new diver … not so much. 🤝 ...
I like it a lot… 🥰
… but, as with the Doxa Sub, I cannot handle that crippled hour hand… 😓