New Shoes for the Octa Lune....

Mar 03, 2020,06:59 AM

Feels like a completely different watch on this strap. I had it on the blue croc strap and switched to this taupe strap. It makes the dial even seem like gray. 

What do you guys think?

Original croc strap

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Taupe looks bang on trend...

 By: Cpt Scarlet : March 3rd, 2020-07:09
A blue version would also go well.

Looks like you are not wearing any shoes

 By: iceheller : March 3rd, 2020-07:16
with the new strap. But it gives the watch a distinct look! Nice 👍 i must say. Cheers.


 By: Sgfortino : March 3rd, 2020-07:33
I am actually, they just happen to be a similar color to the flooring in my office.

Great looking strap! Where did you get it from?

 By: patrick_y : March 3rd, 2020-08:07
Awesome look! Good thinking!

A Collected Man

 By: Sgfortino : March 3rd, 2020-08:50
I bought both the Zurich and the Stockholm straps. They have versions with curved ends too like the OEM FPJ straps, which is nice.

Got it. I'd be concerned...

 By: patrick_y : March 3rd, 2020-09:43
I'd be concerned about the springbars they use. Generally they use steel spring bars which are integrated into the strap. This is fine if you have a steel watch. But this is NOT OKAY if you have a gold/platinum watch. Steel is significantly harder than go... 


 By: J.N : March 3rd, 2020-15:51
BUT even FPJ uses SS springbars themselves...So what are your options? I cannot even get the standard curved QR straps from FPJ themsevles and you cannot find a gold curved QR spring bar on the market either...

We need a technical answer from FPJ. Does FPJ use a special soft steel or one that has a special (like teflon) coating? How does FPJ prevent wear?

 By: patrick_y : March 4th, 2020-00:08
Patek Philippe doesn't spend excess money on springbars if they don't have to. I'm sure Patek Philippe wouldn't incur that expenditure multiplied by two spring bars per watch multiplied by the tens of thousands of watches they sell on straps equipped with... 


 By: Sgfortino : March 3rd, 2020-22:28
Other than Patek, don’t most manufacturers use steel spring bars even with gold watches? My Rolex Cellini Moonphase is RG and I believe uses steel spring bars, same with my white gold Daytona. Dont the FPJ straps that come with his platinum watches use st... 

I'm not sure what FPJ comes with. Looks like steel to me.

 By: patrick_y : March 4th, 2020-00:11
Patek Philippe doesn't spend excess money on springbars if they don't have to. I'm sure Patek Philippe wouldn't incur that expenditure multiplied by two spring bars per watch multiplied by the tens of thousands of watches they sell (every year) on straps ... 

What do u you mean?

 By: J.N : March 4th, 2020-02:40
Patek uses white gold spring bars on their PM watches. It costs £120 for the pair, and you can purchase them at any Patek boutique or AD. I have confirmed with both FPJ Japan and Paris that the spring bars that are included in the straps with FPJ watches ... 

Good to know that FPJ just uses a normal springbar.

 By: patrick_y : March 4th, 2020-08:13
I can't be certain of anything, but common business practices would suggest that Patek Philippe wouldn't go through the hassle and expense of sourcing gold spring bars unless there was a real net benefit. Perhaps the question we need to ask now is, why do... 

Update & Apologies from ACM

 By: horologicalman : March 20th, 2020-03:26
Dear members of the Purist community, Having recently found this thread, I just wanted to take the opportunity to acknowledge the concerns expressed regarding the spring-bars specific to our 20 x 19 curved straps (commonly sized for FP Journe watches). We... 

Great customer service!

 By: Sgfortino : March 23rd, 2020-21:58
This outcome was expressed me to by email recently related to the straps I purchased a month or so ago now but very admirable to openly acknowledge the issue on the form and offer different solutions. I for one very much love the different look these stra... 

Agreed, on all counts.

 By: Lankysudanese : March 3rd, 2020-08:31
Is that strap from ACM?

It is!

 By: Sgfortino : March 3rd, 2020-08:34
I got both the Zurich and the stockholm, one being taupe and the other gray.

I much prefer the taupe to the croc

 By: ChristianDK : March 3rd, 2020-08:34
It looks much more fresh and modern.

Thanks Christian!

 By: Sgfortino : March 3rd, 2020-08:36
Me too! So much more relaxed with this strap than the croc and more wearable for all occasions. The good part is with the quick change straps it’s easy enough to change.

Very nice combo

 By: kcinemod : March 3rd, 2020-13:45

Superb here’s mine

 By: J.N : March 3rd, 2020-15:50
But a question; I also got the strap from ACM but do you find that the spring bar is abit loose? or rather I feel the strap rattles abit vs the FPJ strap. ...  


 By: Sgfortino : March 3rd, 2020-17:04
It’s certainly not as tight as the FPJ straps but I haven’t noticed it in a detrimental way.

Taupe all day.

 By: Jay (Eire) : March 3rd, 2020-17:18
Allows the watch to be more casual. Both the colour and the texture.

Thanks Jay

 By: Sgfortino : March 3rd, 2020-17:45
Totally agree. Croc is great but this is better for everyday wear.

And today on the gray strap....

 By: Sgfortino : March 4th, 2020-07:09
Switched to the gray ACM strap today to see how it compares to the taupe. What do you guys think and which do you prefer? ...  

Taupe looks great! Here's my experience with the ACM strap

 By: mbauman947 : March 4th, 2020-12:29
I recently got the Paris strap from ACM for my Octa Lune and came across the same issue with loose spring bars. I was able to remove the spring bars from the ACM strap without damaging the leather and replaced them with the spring bars from a genuine FPJ ...  

Yes agree

 By: J.N : March 4th, 2020-13:49
My experience was very similar. I was able to get FPJ springbars “without” the quick release from the boutique here in tokyo. When i uses that instead now the ACM strap fits snug and there is no rattle. However now to remove it......

Awesome looking Octa Lune!

 By: Sgfortino : March 4th, 2020-16:27
As for the spring bars, I don’t notice them moving much. Mine feels more like the strap is 0.5-1mm narrower than the lug width and I can get a little action there. But honestly, none of it bothers me enough to worry about it. I like the look of the watch ... 

ACM springbar fit

 By: cfnissen : March 4th, 2020-21:07
I recently bought two beautiful straps from A Collected Man (ACM) for my CHronometre Bleu. I ended up returning them. After I put the first strap on I noticed the rattling that some of you mention above. I took a closer look and noticed that the strap did...  

Thanks! [nt]

 By: cholack : March 4th, 2020-21:37


 By: J.N : March 6th, 2020-00:32
The straps are super safe, the spring bars no. I managed to get some spring bars form the boutique, albeit they are not the quick release unfortunately but other than that the same as the ones that come on the FPJ straps. Once I changed the spring bars, t... 

I spoke to ACM

 By: Sgfortino : March 11th, 2020-08:54
They appreciated the feedback and were very apologetic. They said they are working on fixing the issue and understand our concerns. If you look on their site they pulled down all the curved end straps so it seems they are definitely taking this feedback s... 

Thanks for the update!

 By: cfnissen : March 27th, 2020-05:30
Got the same message by mail as part of my conversation with them. Got a full refund on my purchase in spite of the returned straps getting lost in the mail back to the UK. Nicely handled. Claus

Looks great on that strap

 By: keks : March 11th, 2020-11:45
I used to wear mine on a similar type of strap... ...  

What a beuth

 By: ChristianDK : March 12th, 2020-23:50
What color was the dial? Yellow? Not quite sure from the angle in the picture.

White gold dial

 By: keks : March 13th, 2020-02:26
But color change a bit with light conditions ...