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Is it still the same car? the Porsche (Ship) of Thesus Paradox
A common philosophical debate about whether an object is the same object after having all of its original components replaced over time, typically one after the other. The DMV is interested in this debate too! In the US the debate is about the axe George Washington used to chop down a cherry tree. After replacement of the wooden handle twice, and the worn-down head once, and your daughter putting tape on the handle, is it still the same axe? So far I have managed to avoid it on Lotus and Citroens by dodging some of the restoration steps…
I got involved in the restoration of one of the earliest 2CVs known, and believe me when the Frenchmen had it stripped, it was basically a maze of tubing with very few bits still attached.
Vintage is not for the faint of heart.
The refurbishment took 18 months and a $120k to sort this car out. So a word of caution for those that want an old air cooled these cars suck up a lot of time and a lot of money. So purchase with caution. As some of you guys may remember I bought this car...
Nice!
And thanks for the reminder of why I am not a car guy! Too stressful and too much work!
For me, it's more about the time
Have to find a guy to work on them Then get it to him Then get it back Then it breaks again etc My dad was a car guy growing up, and I got to witness it first hand haha
I have vivid memories when I was young my dad had a 67 fastback mustang that was racing yellow with a black stripe down the center.
I remember we would find an empty straight away and he would look at me and say, are you ready? Right before he would punch it and I would be looking at nothing but blue sky as the front end would lift off the ground. Man those memories are the best.
Tremendous 👏🙂
I bet it was still worth every penny spent 🤘😉. Congratulations to him and to you, cheers, Filip
Well let's say that he just received it yesterday and was already offered more than what we have into it.
But this is an heirloom car, it will be his, then mine then passed down to my daughter.
Wow, what a beauty!
There’s something really special about seeing a car with that kind of history still being cared for and enjoyed today—especially when it has the added meaning of being your father’s. The fact that it just came back from service and is back on the road mak...
thank you for the kind words.
yes the exterior paint is amethyst with a magenta interior and the painted speedlines were added. So it's literally purple on purple on purple. MY brother said looking at dad you can just see a warm smile come across his face when they handed him the keys...
Amethyst is such a great colour.
Even better in person. The 30 years jubilee 911 was in that colour and I once saw one on the Autobahn. It took some effort not to get out of my lane while staring at it
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I’ve been toying with the idea of diving into the vintage Porsche world, though I haven’t quite pulled the trigger yet. The 964 and 993 are the two models I’d seriously consider, but having grown so accustomed to my 991 and 992, I’m not sure I’m fully rea...
Yea I have never purchased anything from him but I hear he's good. These cars are so difficult to find the perfect spec and clean with no accidents and that you really have to be thorough.
They are a time and money pit. SO you have to have the stomach for that. Also, these are worlds apart to the newer stuff. This car can kill you if you don't respect it. The new stuff it's hard to break it loose.
I spent an afternoon at Silverstone with a guy whose dad loaned us his 930
We weren’t kids - each being about 40, and we had just returned from driving UK to Spain and back in a Golf gti turbo (me) and an Austin Healey 3000 (him). The 930 did its best to kill us — as we went backwards into the gravel at 90 mph the threat was cle...
Yup the widow-maker
If that boost comes on in the middle of the turn you have to stay on boost to keep the back end from spinning around like a pendulum. Many people would catch the turn boost comes on, instinctively you want to lay off the throttle because you just got kick...
You are fortunate to have such a great father and to have the means...
...it is a stunning auto...
Thank you, our dad was our driving force to succeed.
I feel my brother and I would have been content being lazy but my parents really pushed us to do better and be better.
Ptfptfptf... you LOVED every minute of it! Yes, even when parts are delayed, or don't fit quite right... or lost in shipping.
Look at her now. Love it! Enjoy the drive my friend. 🎉😎
YEs to all of the above, lost parts, wrong parts, parts not fitting, engine mechanic broke his arm, wrong brakes..
on top of that my dad asking every month when is it going to be done?
Speaking of..
One of my good friends just bought this one or should I say both of them. ...
I love this lambo
Just because of it being poster material as a kid. I’ve never driven one. I believe Monterrey blue? But I don’t know Lamborghini
Vintage cars …
Never the easiest choice and the low points of ownership make you question your own sanity, however the highs are next level and create memories for life . Your Porsche looks fabulous !
Perfectly stated Cpt, my 993 turbo has been out for 18 months now as well.
And there have been many of discussion on why do I do this to myself and I should just sell the damn thing. But I know when it's done you won't be able to pry the keys out of my hand. Love/hate relationship with these vintage.
I feel your pain …
I currently have four cars in various phases of restoration work and two are in the final phase. Planning to make the most of them next year.
YEs that it is my dad and mom in the pics.
I do have some before pics that I posted when I first purchased the car.
"Post . . .
. . . of the year." 😌 Thinking of Dad at this very moment; I gave him a special gift once, but months later he insisted on returning it, claiming it was too good for him. How I wish he'd kept it. I hope your Dad drives his Porsche every day. Wistfully, Ar...
Hi Art..
I think there will be plenty of date nights in that car with my parents. And in the winter I can just see him polishing it every week to keep it shiny.
So awesome, Jorge.
Congratulations to your dad who obviously did a fantastic job raising his children 👍
What a car, what a post!
A real celebratory event for your Family. Congratulations to all of you!
It's An Example Of The Perfect...
... 911. Burgundy Red - a color Porsche no longer offers. And while just an opinion - please hear me out - maybe, just maybe, it's time to get rid of that "whale tail"? Afterall, It's not a turbo or a GT. Plus, it kills the lines. My 911 - Currently parke...
What? It is a turbo, it’s a 1991 964 turbo.
That car is full stock and OEM+ rebuild it’s now a 3.4L turbo
Well Then...
... If it's a 930, the big foil is totally appropriate. My bad. Apologies.
It's not a 930 it's a 964 turbo, wider hips different lines.
Think of the movie bad boys in the 90's it's that car
What a car !
What a beauty ! What a stunner ! I'm jealous but at the same time very happy for your dad ! He is one lucky man Bim
Top notch gift and memory for your family
Second I love this color combo. Such a beauty. Almost want to know what they did for that much cash. Now you have a top beauty for generations 👍
It had everything done to it.
Complete engine rebuild, top and bottom went with 98mm mahle pistons from the 96mm, engine case had to be remachined, new suspension running ohlins, new big red brakes, new speedline wheels with painted centers and polished lips, new seals, new tail light...
Is it still the same car? the Porsche (Ship) of Thesus Paradox
A common philosophical debate about whether an object is the same object after having all of its original components replaced over time, typically one after the other. The DMV is interested in this debate too! In the US the debate is about the axe George ...
