Computing is the New Horsepower

Aug 03, 2020,16:46 PM
 

I read this today in Automotive News: Audi has concluded that cars from now on will be admired for their "computing horsepower" not just (or not at all) by their motive power.



New Audi CEO Markus Duesmann is assembling a project team entitled "Artemis" whose mission is to develop a new computer-driven vehicle system. Project Artemis will sit alongside the group's Car.Software organization, based in Ingolstadt. The new team will be led by Alexander Hitzinger, who worked at Apple on autonomous vehicles, was responsible for autonomous driving at VW, and built the Porsche team that won Le Mans in 2015, 2016 and 2017.

"Technical development of vehicles is no longer organized according to a vehicle's size, but by the car's electrical and electronic architecture," Duesmann said, explaining that premium/high-value models would differentiate themselves by to their computing power and sensor levels...  "Artemis will be smaller than a Formula One team, with around 200 staff."
 
In addition the Audi CEO job, Duesmann is also head of research at VW Group where more than 10,000 employees are working in research and development in Wolfsburg alone! 

In a similar vein, Honda has hired a software guru from Stanford, who said,  "Software adds tremendous value but was being ignored in Japan. Just look at where the wealth is. It’s in the software area, not in the hardware area. Hardware is more like a commodity, and it’s in software where the major margins are."

Sandy Munro, who tears down cars for a living and analyzes them, just completed his report on the Tesla Model Y, which went on sale in March. It's based on the Model 3's architecture, but has raised the bar.

"I thought the Model 3 was 10 years ahead of everybody else," Munro said after examining the individual components and construction of the Model Y. "Then we tore apart the Model Y, and we're pretty much convinced the Model Y is another three or four years ahead [of the 3]."  A former Ford Motor Co. engineer and manager, Munro has been providing competitive analysis to the auto industry for more than three decades. He markets his piece-by-piece teardowns to automakers and suppliers and is widely quoted for his insights into who is setting benchmarks and who is lagging. 

What do you guys make of this - will the fender be emblazoned with its CPU chip, or processor count, or computer bus names? How will we know how smart the cars are? (and do we care?) Will we give up road tests and just watch Sandy's teardowns? Skip the dealer and order it online for touchless delivery?

As Elon Musk said this week, "Yeah. It seems like the future is really headed towards online ordering. You can always go take a test drive, but a lot of people, the way they get a test drive is from a friend of theirs who has the car. So they are driving the friends' cars and they're like, "Hey, this car's great," and then they just go and order it online while they're still in their friend's car. Literally. From the screen in the car."

Look at the chip population density of the model Y board - it's like comparing London to Manchester or Paris to Lyon, or LA to St Louis, or ...




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Great post and I concur!

 
 By: patrick_y : August 3rd, 2020-17:01
Computing power and sensors are the new horsepower. You hit the nail right on the head! I notice my Tesla gets better every couple of months. The continuous software updates do make a positive difference improving the car's smoothness.

Can someone please explain the annoying noise from Audi's .........

 
 By: robmks1 : August 3rd, 2020-18:29
Around my neck of the woods lately there are hopped up Audi's that sound like they are about to blow up. Now I used to have a '72 Vega GT. Don't laugh, it had fantastic handling. But it was the early days of pollution controls on cars. Well it had a probl... 

I have wanted a TUNDRA for years...

 
 By: Mostel : August 3rd, 2020-19:16
The current model is 14 yrs old, with updates and upgrades of course. This post reminds me why I want the Tundra. A beast. A n/a V8 monster with crazy ability and utility. I 'hate' the invasion of tech into every thread of our existence. Excited to buy th... 

A fellow owner...

 
 By: myles721 : August 4th, 2020-03:54
Initially it was my wife that wanted one but with Jet Skis, a boat and a driveway that would have scared Dracula I have truly come to love it. I had a 4 Runner but compared to the Tundta it was a kiddy toy!! ...  

Looks great!!

 
 By: Mostel : August 6th, 2020-18:50
LOVE IT!!! When it crosses 300k miles and still has no end in sight.... you will love it even more!

I only put 5K on it a year at that rate this may be the last one😂😂😂...

 
 By: myles721 : August 7th, 2020-04:19
But I hope not!!!🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻

Interesting post dear Miguel

 
 By: renerod : August 3rd, 2020-20:36
And we are not even weighing the AI factor here and all it’s implications. Future has arrived. Best regards. René

Hello René

 
 By: cazalea : August 4th, 2020-04:50
Of course it is true, the future is electric, but when one is deep in Baja or other remote areas of Mexico, California, Nevada ... and one's life depends on fixing it yourself, then one's personal "future" quickly becomes grim... As Elon said in the inter... 

Totally agree with you!

 
 By: renerod : August 4th, 2020-16:18
New technology is expensive, and not all of people has or will have in the near future the means to pay for it. Also, as a new high tech savvy generation grows and learns how to deal with this new challenges, there’s noting like “old and known”. Just look... 

Wow! Wow!

 
 By: renerod : August 9th, 2020-17:58
Awesome pictures Mike! Where is that? Thanks for sharing. René

That's in the Petersen Museum, in Los Angeles

 
 By: cazalea : August 9th, 2020-18:48
Hi Rene, I did a report on it earlier this year. Here are the links Intro: Part 1: Part 2: Part 3: Part 4: Part 5: Part 6: Happy Reading! Mike

The decline of the automobile

 
 By: Sleeper : August 3rd, 2020-21:48
No V8 (or V12), no sale. Teslas are just a soulless car with a bunch of electric motors and IC boards. No, thanks.

I am in your camp. [nt]

 
 By: amanico : August 3rd, 2020-23:02

Tried the Taycan turbo a few weeks back...

 
 By: manilx : August 4th, 2020-02:21
And while the performance is better than my 911 (992), I actually the next day had neck ache from the acceleration, the missing sound and “life” was a downturn. Would never consider it and I actually think that all those electric cars are a middle step fo... 

Can I give you a different perspective...

 
 By: Cpt Scarlet : August 4th, 2020-02:50
I own a Tesla and V8 cars. They are totally different and in the same way complementary. Most days I jump in the Tesla it’s comfortable,discrete,quiet (perfect environment if you enjoy music) and very quick. It’s also good to pedestrians who aren’t breath... 

All gas cars will be outlawed soon enough , sad

 
 By: jerry6 : September 25th, 2020-14:19
agreed it is like going to a concert with no sound just notes displayed on a giant screen . i refuse to buy any new car ,unless they can strip all the gee whiz tech out of it Teslas are fast , but there is more to it than that, why buy a car that drives i... 

More ominously, they are all connected, all tracked, all managed remotely

 
 By: cazalea : September 26th, 2020-06:17
A system outage this week at Tesla meant globally no one could contact or open their car with their phone (although they could still drive). No upgrades, no contact with the hive ( Borg ). It must have been a shock to those accustomed to these features. I... 

I have no problem with the EV

 
 By: Tim_M : September 25th, 2020-19:47
Conservative tastes used to rail against the dead and soulless automobile compared to the horse. We got over that, and EVs are the same thing in a different era. I've driven tons of useless and forgettable gas cars and some exhilarating EVs. Best, Tim

The quartz crisis of the automotive world?

 
 By: Fastwong : August 3rd, 2020-22:43
The rate of innovation in software and electronics is soooooo much faster than traditional automotive engineering that its going to have to change the entire auto buying model. In the US we have a ton of auto loans on 3, 5, and even 7 year schedules. How ... 

The future is EV like it or not...

 
 By: myles721 : August 4th, 2020-04:01
I have a 370 with twin turbos...the GTR was a consideration but nautical purchases preempted...Tesla has a 5 year moat due to its proprietary processor. That is when I became a shareholder @ about 550. This is no longer an argument about combustion vs EV.... 

Toyota's Action: Woven Planet

 
 By: cazalea : August 4th, 2020-06:53
Automakers are frantically working to improve their capability to compete in software and services, new areas defining the industry. Toyota’s Research Institute – Advanced Development (TRI-AD) is a Toyota group assigned the mission of autonomous vehicles....