To be honest, many of the dress watches in the 1980s to late-1990s were incredibly conservative. Perhaps indicative of a market that was lost and not yet found. The 80s and 90s watches that ventured outside this comfort zone are under-appreciated, perhaps being dismissed without further thought.
These are both extraordinary watches, particularly the first Star Wheel. Good luck with the bidding. If they remain under appreciated for long enough, perhaps I can dream of owning one in my lifetime.