Vacheron Constantin

If one were to dream of a Vacheron Constantin... What would you dream of? I'd dream of a 222 in steel, blue dial. Maybe 37-40mm in diameter. With a high quality Geneva Seal movement inside. Not sure about the date - I suppose most people want automatic an...  

At least that’s what I’m hearing from friends that are big VC collectors.

But in all honesty; this case and bracelet aren't that much nicer than the Chopard Alpine Eagle. The Chopard LUC 96 movement in the Alpine Eagle might also be superior to the 2455 movement too.

I had a MM in the past that I sold. Still have the matching cufflinks with the same rubber tread as the strap.

You read this article already... www.watchprosite.com 1/ And the Chopard movement on paper is probably better in many ways than the Vacheron Constantin 2455 movement.

Something my wife wears. And even though I have a Piaget I put that brand in the same category. Whereas brands like Patek and Rolex are truly watch brands. Now, it doesn’t mean they chopard and Cartier or Piaget don’t make amazing watches (they do), I jus... 

Then I realized, almost all of these brands are owned by some conglomerate and these brands are all just looking for a niche. In the music world, bands are "manufactured" by music studio executives who have identified an uncatered-to niche in the market. ... 

I just haven’t spent time learning about brands like bulgari or chopard watchmaking and know them primarily for their jewelry my wife likes.

And don't take my word for it. The GPHG and even the snobby Patek Philippe collectors are wearing the latest Alpine Eagle pink dial variant and the Octo Finissimo.

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obtain in life are VCs! 1921, Overseas, Mercator!! Besides that, a really high end Reverso ........

I was expecting them to first release a white gold or just keep the 222 line only in gold but it seems VC decided to bestow the masses the thing they want.

Not only on certain references but generally watches sell well these days, which is cool as maisons offer more references. Let’s see when VC will announce the new steel 222. Hope they make a rectangular one too, I might not resist to that one.

Uh oh!

Chefs kiss!!

The bracelet is a little too matte for me. I wished they'd do some very thin polished edges like they do on the Nautilus. The Nautilus just does it soooo well.

Why not as it seems to be desired, but I have other expectations from VC, especially in the Historiques collection, to which the 222 belongs. VC hasn’t introduced anything new in this wonderful collection for a while now, so there lies my hope.

That’s the line that interests me the most.

Nice watch, boring catalogue. Waiting for the press release but I think it will be WR 50 m at the best, which is disappointing. The overseas 2000 in steel would be a great re- edition, but I think they'll keep it for the next years...

And yes, I don't think the 222 even went through the R&D department... Heritage department took all the credit! If it went to R&D department, it probably only went there to see what they could economize? I hope I'm not being too critical here.

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Although with the 1121 movement, the date will lose the quick adjust, have to go to 11PM and to 1AM multiple times to adjust the date multiple dates. So would you keep the date then? Or just go dateless?

Then again - the 16202 had a new movement as well and the new 222 movement is better finished so perhaps I could live with it after all.

Hmm. AP 16202, Patek 5811/1, Patek 5712/1, or VC 222 as they come from the factory right now. Which one is your favorite? I'm not impartial since I already adore the 5712 and I like micro rotors. Even though 5712 isn't exactly traditional.

I asked if they had any thoughts on a steel 222. They did not (of course) reveal any big news like that to me. However I thought I could sense thoughts a long the line "why should we do that when we are far from fullfilling the customer requests on the go... 

But VC won't milk it too much - all the brands have the same strategy. Create a hype watch and always make 10 less than they can sell to keep the hype alive.

Every brand needs their "Daytona" or "hype" model. The 222 wasn't a great seller when it came out neither. But it was reintroduced since the fashion/style trend is an integrated bracelet sports watch with some thinness and elegance.

Otherwise, its just a fancy dress watch pretending to be a sport watch.

A fancy dress watch pretending to be a sports watch!

steel, 37mm and at a price that I can afford! Unlikely and if it is probably just harder to get hold of. At least I will save!

The boat to saving money!

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Chronometre Royal has to have a second hand right? I presume.

A manual chronograph would be within the oeuvre

MAYBE IN TI ALSO

Nice pic by the way ;-) I feel honored my friend. Cheers, HSTE

I'd really like the Patek 5711 if it didn't have the seconds hand. The older Jumbo didn't have a second hand. Hope you're well and safe! And what a great pic indeed!

PP3700, AP5402 and the VC222, all with the same movement, as you know. Cheers, HSTE ...