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Dec 20, 2017,23:25 PM
 

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Rolex: Sub or GMT?

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : December 20th, 2017-02:16
Frtom the current modern collection, the Sub and GMT are two of the world's most popular watches. Sometimes, one has a tendency to err towards one rather than the other. Obviously, there is no right or wrong answer, but merely an instinctive tendency towa...  

The eternal question. The answer is that you can't go wrong with any of them.

 
 By: amanico : December 20th, 2017-02:19
Now, I would favor the GMT MASTER. For the complication, and for its insert. The thing I would love to see is the all brushed bracelet of the Sub, on the GMT MASTER. Best, Nicolas

The eternal question!!

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : December 20th, 2017-02:21
I do think we all have an instict towards one or the other.....not that there is any logic to that instinct, just an instinct.

True. To be more precise, this is a question some of us eternally had in mind. ;)

 
 By: amanico : December 20th, 2017-03:10
In my very early days of collecting watches, I considered both. But quite quickly, the GMT MASTER. Clearly my choice in moderns. As for vintages, the GMT MASTER is my clear preference, but the Tudor 7924 is a strong love. Best, Nicolas

yep....

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : December 20th, 2017-03:16
.....no question that we can have big loves in both camps....but instinctively i see you as a GMT guy.

GMT because

 
 By: MTF : December 20th, 2017-02:22
Instintively, the GMT selected because we are more likely to be flying in aeroplanes than deep sea diving. The extra GMT hand is pretty and a bit of colour on the bezel can't be bad. I'd like a darker hue of blue but that breaks the 'keep it instintive' r... 

the colour angle is one that originally drew me to my first purchase....

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : December 20th, 2017-02:59
......but then I always wanted to dive more than fly, so i erred back to Subs.

GMT...only because the colors add a little more life

 
 By: rnaden : December 20th, 2017-02:26
Not that the all black is bad....but because it is already expected and I like the little playfulness the colors give

Yep....colour is a big factor....agree....

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : December 20th, 2017-02:59
....its nice to see it a little more "alive" with some colour

Between the two its a GMT everytime - because its useful on travels, and I'm no diver

 
 By: nomadgiles : December 20th, 2017-02:37
but I'd need a new crystal without the cyclops lens - that part just doesn't float my boat - on any watch. Cheers. G.

Hey Giles.....

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : December 20th, 2017-03:00
......piling-on for the GMT here i see. Teh complication also does help

Age plays its card

 
 By: MTF : December 20th, 2017-03:04
G. I used to comment on the Cyclops feature. Then, Age caught up with me and I'm glad for any help I get for reading. Regards, MTF

Until may arm can no longer.....

 
 By: nomadgiles : December 20th, 2017-03:29
........move closer or further away from my eyes, then the cyclops will remain persona non grata ;-) Cheers. Giles

indeed......even as a non-Rolex guy, you still exhibited an instinct bias

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : December 20th, 2017-03:01
.....i am also not a big fan of teh cyclops

At the same time it’s so Rolex

 
 By: Alkiro1 : December 20th, 2017-05:59
Best wishes Alkiro

Ok ok

 
 By: Arie - Mr Orange : December 20th, 2017-03:35
So GMT it is. I have never found the Sub really special despite it’s immense heritage and place in history. Probably because there are so so many of them and it is the public’s first ‘go to’ sports Rolex. (Just an illogical personal opinion of course) ... 

In the past, I was more a GMT guy, the Batman being the last GMT I owned.

 
 By: Pretty Boy : December 20th, 2017-03:05
If I had to decide now, I would go for the Hulk. That green sunburst dial in combination with the green bezel is nice. Like Nico, I also prefer the fully brushed bracelet of the Sub. Best, Volker

hey Volker....

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : December 20th, 2017-03:12
.....your first was also a GMT, right? I think if i was pushed into buying a modern Rolex today, I would probably go SD4000.....I sort of like the white gold GMT too. Uhm....that doesn't really help much....does it.

Yep, my first Rolex was a GMT all black.

 
 By: Pretty Boy : December 20th, 2017-03:32
Even though I’m not that much into Rolex anymore, I still find that they are making great and good looking sports watches. And like Porsche have been doing with the 911, they manage to “modernize” their icons in a diligent and prudent way so that their he... 

Contrary to most, its the Sub for me

 
 By: skyeriding : December 20th, 2017-03:58
The bezel is much simpler and refined in my opinion; the gmt feels too numerically cluttered. Perhaps it carries a more modern touch/styling that adhers better to my taste The sub has a choice between date or nodate as one prefers. The little pip at 12 of... 

then we are in the minority....

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : December 20th, 2017-04:35
.....if push came to shove, probably Sub for me too.

This is easy for me. Sub all day, every day.

 
 By: zabreg1 Mr White : December 20th, 2017-04:36
A GMT is nice to have, but I am perfectly capable of keeping time in my head. A Sub is the quintessential Rolex, IMO. And no date, either.

yes...ideally no date [nt]

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : December 20th, 2017-04:44

The one time 'no date' works

 
 By: MTF : December 20th, 2017-04:57
zabtrg1, No date on a Submariner makes sense as very few people stay underwater for more than a day. On the other hand, a date for a GMT travel watch must be essential. Or we have to cheat with a mobile electronic device and not rely on "the watch". Regar... 

I agree (mostly).

 
 By: zabreg1 Mr White : December 20th, 2017-05:35
But I am the kind of person that always knows exactly what tima and date are in (to me) relevant places. Thus, GMT is simply another pointy hand and isn’t much ise, cool as it looks. As for the Sub and date, yes, I don’t need it for overnight diving. But ... 

At that point, all that doesn't matter anyway.

 
 By: zabreg1 Mr White : December 20th, 2017-06:54
But yes, I tend to keep all that in my head.

Out of these two...

 
 By: BentN : December 20th, 2017-05:59
I personally didn't think a second Surely the GMT. As long as possibly doable, I need a date. Even more so on a travel watch. Sure, no-date is understandable on a pure divers-watch like the Submariner, even I also "need" date on this model for every day u... 

GMT!

 
 By: Fla25 : December 20th, 2017-06:14
Tons of words already been spent, I had very same question some years ago, I'd say polished link, green hand and so on, but in reality is the heart that choses for you Cheers F

Submariner Serti allowed?

 
 By: Arie - Mr Orange : December 20th, 2017-06:45
You know, for when the inner pimp acts up? ...  

Elvis has left the building..... [nt]

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : December 20th, 2017-06:54

Your question is too difficult...

 
 By: U3O8 : December 20th, 2017-07:24
I will just say I took the easy way out and bought both X2. 16700, 16610, 16610 LV and recently, the BLNR. Love them all. I'm no pilot but I do fly frequently, and I'm no saturation diver but I do dive frequently. So I enjoy my watches. And I have descend... 

Fair enough.....

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : December 20th, 2017-07:36
Like you, I find joy in both styles. Although I think i give teh Sub the edge, there are just some days when a GMT is the only thing that works!

New Batman GMT for me

 
 By: Mr Glass : December 20th, 2017-09:35
I am a big fan of timezone complications so it is an easy choice for me. The new GMT allows quick set for main time (rather than GMT hand) which I find more useful than the other way around. The blue/black bezel adds visual interest too. And (sorry) I lik... 

GMT for me, but again, what do I know 😬

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 20th, 2017-10:28
I just like how Rolex is able to blend the 2 ceramic colors seamlessly on the bezel. The small GMT complication and easy hour setting are added bonus. The blue looks great, happened to be wearing it today. Rgds Raymond ...  

Submariner.

 
 By: TheMadDruid : December 20th, 2017-11:32
The thing I don't find appealing about the GMT (and the Explorer II as well-and I know that is blasphemous) is the very thing that makes it a GMT, and useful. I hate the 24 hour hand dragging around the dial and confusing the hell out of me. I used to thi... 

Sub no date

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : December 20th, 2017-11:44
I do not like polished links, I do not like the new cases generally. However, the Sub no date looks very elegant and pure: a purist' s Rolex!

Sorry to say that but this will mit happen ...

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : December 20th, 2017-12:22
mostlikely.

The Batman GMT

 
 By: thomashudson : December 20th, 2017-12:02
I think the all-black Sub just needs something more. I have the Hulk and like the added color.

Sub for me. It's burnt in my brain from childhood as what a Rolex looks like. It was the first Rolex I saw.

 
 By: watchthatman : December 20th, 2017-12:06
Looking at the pics here I like the sub with no date - clean, the black bezel and silver of the steel work so well. I may never own one, but that's my choice between the two.

My head says the GMT/Explorer II is the better watch...

 
 By: John : December 20th, 2017-15:46
but after two of each, I keep letting them go. My Seadweller, however, has stayed for 25+ years.

Yep....i know what you mean....

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : December 20th, 2017-23:25
....a very similar thing for me too. SD do seem to be more durable for me

Only one for me

 
 By: Miranda : December 20th, 2017-16:06
Its a tool watch I can actually use! ...  

more than your SD? [nt]

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : December 20th, 2017-23:25

Purely on looks alone..

 
 By: Echi : December 20th, 2017-18:40
I’d go for the modern sub. And while I’m a no-date fan on average, I’d like to have that cyclops on the sub. I think it’s part of the Rolex DNA just as it is without. But if I were crossing date lines on a regular basis, I’d probably go for the GMT even i... 

This is a truly tough choice!!

 
 By: esddmd : December 20th, 2017-18:50
Today’s choice would be the Batman; tomorrow may be the Sub

Submariner

 
 By: emcquillan : December 20th, 2017-20:44
To me it's the perfect watch book aesthetically and practically. You can wear it anywhere for any occasion. Plus I'm biased and prefer world time watches to GMT with the second hour hand... with the exception of some vintage GMT and explorer, but sticking... 

Easy in my case.. GMT "Bruiser", which is the one I own (actually since same time as yours).. & I still love it with pretty much wristtime.. Like the little color accents + date here.

 
 By: hs111 : December 21st, 2017-05:19
.. BTW: I do not have a really modern Sub, my Vintages + some "intermediates", such as 16750 Pepsi, are enough for me.. Thus, GMT please ! Best, hs