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Agree with you 100%.. in my eyes, it takes a 60mp mf sensor to get close to a 24mp mono cam..

 

As to the actual tones produced, i’m sure it’s not 1:1 as the M246 outputs more than 16k shades of bw which means deeper blacks, for example. But then at 60mp conversion to bw, software like LightRoom has a lot to work with to make it a close fight. Personally, after having shot exclusively with the mono for more than 5 years, i can safely say that the smoothness in tones especially blacks i can see in my X so much so that i can live with any difference it may have.

Having said, a friend of mine who prints for Leica locally told me that the Q3 files can actually give the 60mp files of the X a run for its money. If the Q3 had a 35mm focal length, I would have been tempted to ditch both the X and Mono smile

I was supposed to borrow the Q3 from the boutique but my trip got moved up. Otherwise, I would have had a 3rd pic here to show!

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24 vs 60

 
By: Echi : February 12th, 2024-15:29
I’ll spare you guys the guess work Leica M246 Monochrom, 24mp Hasselblad X1D2, 60mp, BW conversion With the X at 60mp, I’m thinking I can ditch the M246 already. BW conversion is quite decent if I benchmark tonality vs a BW camera like the M246. Also inte...  

Beautiful shots!

 
By: le_chef : February 12th, 2024-16:08
I think there are really two things you highlight: input - the process that makes you happiest, output - how good the images look after processing. With a rangefinder it takes a while to unlearn the quicker process of autofocus and to remind yourself that... 

Agree with you 100%.. in my eyes, it takes a 60mp mf sensor to get close to a 24mp mono cam..

 
By: Echi : February 12th, 2024-16:26
As to the actual tones produced, i’m sure it’s not 1:1 as the M246 outputs more than 16k shades of bw which means deeper blacks, for example. But then at 60mp conversion to bw, software like LightRoom has a lot to work with to make it a close fight. Perso... 

Q3

 
By: le_chef : February 12th, 2024-21:31
I’m using one and experimenting with cropping. The recent images posted here were taken with the Q3 and cropped, then I applied Denoise software as the ISO was 3200 and above. So a double stress test. I like the results but will keep experimenting and twe... 

3200 is fine

 
By: le_chef : February 13th, 2024-15:32
6400 is fine. It’s only when you go to 12800, or you need to crop images severely that you need denoise when above 3200. As I said when the image is cropped to approx 18MP and is at 3200 ISO or higher do you need denoise. I might add some of the B&W image... 

An interesting comparison, albeit full frame vs. medium format ...

 
By: fernando : February 13th, 2024-01:47
as the outcome is almost unnoticeable with the right editing software. However, the workflow from a dedicated monochrome camera is so much easier with higher iso performance, dynamic range, and sharper images to begin with. With my Q2M I normally shoot jp...  

True, different sensors but both “mirroring” each other’s strengths from a bw pov..

 
By: Echi : February 13th, 2024-03:07
I’m with you on 100mp being overkill! I have big prints from the m246 and use that as basis for determining that i’m ok with my current cameras. At some point, we have to say basta! Lovin’ that last bridge pic. Where were you standing to take that?