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It's a tie for me
Nov 25, 2015,02:36 AM
Although I tend to see the 5130p as the ultimate world timer due to a. size, b. scissor hands and c. dial's ability to bring light and various shades of blue, if given the chance to purchase one of them, I would spend a considerable amount of time before deciding where to put my money into.
The 5110p is flawless. I just find the 5130p a bit more sexy, but it's difficult to explain why.
Both are holy grails and would be happy with either. Love the pics of the 5110p, anytime you post them.
All the very best, dearest Nicolas,
Alexandros
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5110 or 5130, what's your favourite ?
By: amanico : April 21st, 2009-12:47
I managed to take some decent macros of these 2 modern PP World Time, which are, IMO, the nicest World Time of the actual production. The question is what is the most desirable between these 2 references... Well, it's not about the movement, as the Calibe...
5110 without hesitation, because ...
By: small-luxury-world : April 21st, 2009-13:13
of the Guillochage. The Sunburst Dial doesn´t do it for me. Only the feeling of the pusher kept me away (so far) to get one. It was my first impression when I handled it and still can´t forget it. Always have to try it, when I get one in my hands ... :-( ...
5130 for me
By: Bruno.M1 : April 21st, 2009-14:39
to start, the extra 2 mm is very important to me ! Concerning the dial, I'm not a big fan of guilloché dials and I love the hour hand of the 5130
me too
By: Aussie : April 21st, 2009-15:34
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It depends, Polarbear
By: amanico : April 22nd, 2009-13:49
If you compare a 5110P to a 5130G or R, the platinum makes the 5110 a bit heavier... But when you love, you don't count... the weight! Best, Nicolas
Great, Arnon
By: amanico : April 22nd, 2009-13:47
Even if in this platinum configuration, I prefer the 5110P, I can say that you're a lucky guy... Very nice WT, indeed. Best, Nicolas
+1, A little bigger and that so strange & attractive hour hand
By: PoyFR : April 22nd, 2009-00:46
Both are beautiful watches. I will not consider the 5110 because it is too small on my wrist but a beautiful watch it is. Otherwise I too am fan of the 5130 because of that hand.. Since my early days around watches I often looked at those Vintage World ti...
I still have in mind our first conversations, POY
By: amanico : April 22nd, 2009-13:51
Some 5 years ago, now... The first time we met, I had this 5110P on the wrist... I remember perfetcly that you were " damnig " your wrist to not be less small... Best, my friend. Nicolas
Was pretty sure that you would say that, Bruno
By: amanico : April 22nd, 2009-13:38
But why? Really, the 2 extra millimeters make the difference, as the 5130 is easier to wear on a big wrist like yours. But the 5110 is such a jewel, compared to the 5130... Tough choice, indeed! Best, Nicolas
Why, KGB?
By: amanico : April 22nd, 2009-13:58
For its bigger size? Its Hour Hand? The Finish of the dial? All these reasons? Best, Nicolas
5110
By: Chris Meisenzahl : April 21st, 2009-17:41
Great post. Patek makes the best true worldtimer, tradition and innovation. I like 5130, but love 5110!
Hi, Chris
By: amanico : April 22nd, 2009-14:01
Can't agree more about what you said on the best WT. As POY said, if I fell in love with PP watches, it is because of the World Time, of its original and elegant design and complication. I feel like a child each time I admire its dial. Now, like you said ...
Honestly, I really like the Jaeger-LeCoultre Reverso Grande Date GMT
By: patrick_y : April 23rd, 2009-01:22
It's not a world timer per say, since it can only show two different timezones at once, but it does have a GMT differential. A bit of a pain to set actually. You really have to read the owner's manual on that one. But if you know what country you are goin...
Depends on the metal...
By: patrick_y : April 21st, 2009-23:39
I love all the Patek Worldtimers, especially because they have the 240 caliber movement which exhibits a very high degree of finishing. However, in different metals, I prefer different world timers... Yellow gold; I've only seen it in the 5110 and not 513...
Quite a good analysis, metal versus metal, Patrick!
By: amanico : April 22nd, 2009-14:19
Agree on the YG 5110. As for the WG, don't know what would be my favourite, as the color of the center of the dial is quite the same than the one on the outer dial, so, even if the dimensions have changed on the 5130, it is not easily noticeable... As for...
Thank you Nicolas
By: patrick_y : April 23rd, 2009-01:16
Thank you Nicolas for sharing the pictures of those beautiful watches. Assuming those Patek World Time watches belong to members of your household, I must assume you and your family members travel extensively or have friends all over the world. I wanted t...
Tough decision really... as for me..
By: cmclee : April 22nd, 2009-00:21
Finally decided on the 5130g. Personally I feel that the cities are a bit cramp for 5110 and also the hands are a bit short thus affecting its legibility. I like the 5130 scissor hands as it resembles the vintage worldtimer and overall more readible. The ...
Aesthetics against practicality
By: amanico : April 22nd, 2009-14:22
That's perfectly sums the problem, cmclee! I love that formula. I guess that the thing is to get one, whatever it is a 5110 or 5130, as PP WT are true references in regard of World Timer Watches. Best, Nicolas
5131G for me....
By: Dje : April 22nd, 2009-01:22
......and then 5110P! Cheers Dje
Aaaah, Jerome
By: amanico : April 22nd, 2009-22:27
If only these bloody engravings Patek Philippe Geneve at 12 and 6 didn't exist, as well as the curious font used for the cities of the world... It would have been THE PP WT for me too! A Pity because the Combo of the white gold case and the Blue enamel di...
mmh
By: lutz : April 29th, 2009-06:42
Hi Nicolas, funny nobody seems to like the font and the engraving.I don't mind at all,on the contrary,very nice font and the engravings,well why not. esp.the white gold one for me after the celestial the most beautiful patek,a shame almost no one will get...
Engraving Not a Problem
By: Mean Solar Time : June 22nd, 2013-01:17
I can't tell from your post if you have a 5131G? I'm guessing not. The engraving at 6 and 12 o'clock is simply NOT a problem. It's very well done and not as the website pictures would suggest. It's very discrete and you have to actually hold the watch at ...
5130
By: constantine : April 22nd, 2009-04:28
i prefer it due to its size and most of all the hands. while we're on the subject, does anybody else find that the 5110 makes a "clunky" noise when the button is pressed and consequently makes the feel a bit "cheap"?...or have i just been unlucky whenever...
As I mentioned ...
By: small-luxury-world : April 22nd, 2009-04:54
above, I made the same experience. Oliver
Same feeling with the 5130, Constantine
By: amanico : April 22nd, 2009-23:45
This is not what I'd call the same feeling as a Lange Dato pusher sensation. It is quite the same, also, on the JLC Master World Geographique. Seems that it is due to the Commplication. Best, Nicolas
Fantastic pictures
By: Baron - Mr Red : April 22nd, 2009-07:00
I have to say, these two watches do have different personalities, and you do a great job defining them. In many ways, the ideal watch is a mixture between the two. But, since no such watch exists one must trade-off. I prefer the dial on the 5110, but agre...
Buy hands from a 5130 for replacement!
By: mac_omega : April 22nd, 2009-12:42
It is quite easy: If you like the scissors hands of the 5130 buy a pair and have the hands on the 5110 replaced - keep them for spares or for later resale - if you were able to part I personally decided for 5110P and do not regret at all! The 2 mm less ...
I would try...
By: mac_omega : April 23rd, 2009-06:56
Hi Nicolas, I would try to buy a pair of 5130 hands through a local AD and have them replaced locally. They should fit perfectly as they are for the same movement and I think even the proportions will fit nicely. I too doubt if the hands were replaced whe...
Wisely put, Joe, and nicely, too.
By: amanico : April 22nd, 2009-23:47
Well, I was thinking a bit the same... The perfect WT would have the dial and the dimensions of the 5110, with the cissoirs hour hand of the 5130... To me, at least. Best, Nicolas
Easy for me, 5110P
By: schen : April 22nd, 2009-10:00
...among the choices of all 5110, 5130 and 5131 incarnations, simply because overall it looks the best to my eyes. The size of 5110 is also right to me. Althouth I don't quite like the hands of 5110 as much as those of 5130/5131, they don't look bad and t...
Sublte alchimy, indeed, schen
By: amanico : April 23rd, 2009-08:29
That's the interest of such a topic... Seeing everybody posting thier thoughts and feelings is great. I'm a big fan of the 5110P, so I may be biased in my toughts.. Best, Nicolas
first at all my sincere compliments for the quality of the post..
By: chronoman19 : April 22nd, 2009-10:34
wonderful pics, very interesting argument and perfect made . Well my answer is...........5130 ! my wife gift .......no doubt my preferred reference. Again thank you for your time to realize such a professional post. ! Walter
Thanks a lot, Walter, for your nice words
By: amanico : April 23rd, 2009-08:31
Even if I'm not very happy with my pics. But this is a post I wanted to do for a long time, now. The nicest watches are indeed in the category you quoted...Watches gifted by a beloved relative. Thanks for your input, Walter. Best, Nicolas This message has...
Best Dials
By: Jaime : April 22nd, 2009-11:39
Nicolas, Great job and pictures. IMO the best dials are 5110P and 5130 R..... These are beautifull pieces! Keep in mind that sooner or later Patek will have to remove the city of Caracas, venezuela as they changed their time. A Lange alredy did it in thei...
You're absolutely right, Jaime
By: amanico : April 23rd, 2009-10:39
So these " Early " PP WT will become Museum Pieces, or at least, the witnesses or a certain period... Best, Nicolas This message has been edited by amanico on 2009-04-23 10:40:23
For me, 5130
By: masterspiece : April 22nd, 2009-15:19
Although I am not usually drawn to a bigger size, this one is an exception to the rule. On the practical side, the bigger dial allows more space between the countries. From the bottom of "Moscow to the bottom of Dubai", the "leading" is a little more spac...
Didn't see things this way, Bob
By: amanico : April 23rd, 2009-10:43
You're right about the sunburst finish of the 5130 dial... It is opening the dial a bit more, making it a bit bigger than it already is. After, this is a matter of taste..Sunburst or guilloché... To each his own. The good thing is that you can't go w...
SPOT ON
By: Tonypatch : January 10th, 2015-00:43
Thanks for describing it. The "sunburst" dial and the less cluttered dial make the watch feel "lighter". In WG/PT it has a nice, April-spring-breeze taste to it, think of how the air smells in Airolo once you have made the journey over the Gotthard pass. ...
Cant disagree
By: Tonypatch : January 10th, 2015-00:51
The sunburst could also be on a modern mid-market watch (think: Mont Blanc etc). But I am growing fonder and fonder of the 5130, contrary to my initial stance.
I know
By: Tonypatch : January 10th, 2015-01:10
This is what I need to find out. Sometimes, very small differences in proportions and size can make or break "it". The Jaguar x308 and x350 models are a good example. The latter are good cars, but although they seem to look just like a modernized x308, th...
5110 for me
By: WatchFan1 : April 22nd, 2009-22:04
5110 for several reasons, here I will list a few: - I like the 39mm size on 5130, but dislike that the center dial remained the same and only the outer ring with cities changed - 5110 - quilloche dial rocks ...the sunburst is not even lose to me in its lo...
Superb pics, Watchfan
By: amanico : April 22nd, 2009-22:39
The 4 or 5 last pics are just specatular. I feel exactly the same about my 5110, but the only difference is that I madly fell in love with, and that it's even a deeper love with Time. Each Time I wear this watch, I feel the same. Admiration, Passion, and ...
Obviously, YES
By: amanico : April 23rd, 2009-10:45
You wear it on your right wrist? First time I see that. The 5110P is a pure jewel, indeed! Best, Nicolas
5130 for me for 2 reasons.
By: foversta : April 23rd, 2009-14:26
- the hour hands : it's beautiful. - the size : the 39,5mm are perfect on my wrist. Fr.Xavier
...5110R...simply because...
By: p@p@ : April 23rd, 2009-19:50
...i own it already... however, i have bad eyes (prescription eyewear...a must for me...) when i am out of town and i wake up in the morning or in the middle of the night trying to look at the time...or when i'm half a sleep and half awake trying to look ...
Same goes for the 5130
By: Tonypatch : January 10th, 2015-00:46
It reminds me of the golden era of valve tube radios, think Grundig, Telefunken et al. And surprisingly it does not have this ridiculous "retro" affection like the recently unveiled new Rolex Cellini. It is a tasteful yet slightly eccentric reference to P...
This thread has certainly....................
By: Topcat30093 : April 24th, 2009-12:23
Generated quite a reaction! Its been interesting to read everybodies views on the differences of the two models. But I am afraid that I shall have to remain on the fence, as I am undecided as to whiche one I would choice.
Owned a 5110P purchased BNIB back in 2001 ...
By: Aussie : April 24th, 2009-12:55
the first Platinum WT my AD received -- Traded the 5110P after the reference was discontinued several years later for a BNIB 5130P plus $ xxx with the same AD I originally purchased from. With all these 5110 vs. 5130 posts, I wonder now did I trade up or ...
Topcat,
By: amanico : April 24th, 2009-13:07
I think that each of these models has its pros and cons, the perfect WT being a blend of the 2, perhaps? What I strongly believe is that each fan of the 5110 or of the 5130 has his good reasons to support his champion. It's, at the end, a question of wris...
3-2
By: Tonypatch : January 10th, 2015-00:39
I could live with the 2 PPs alone, they could match 99% of my life.
Tough decision, eeeh, Eric?
By: amanico : April 25th, 2009-03:16
I have to admit that this scissor Hour Hand is to die for. Then, the problem is really the interface between the wrist and the watch, and sometimes, indeed, 2mm more is better... Happy to see you still in Honeymoon woith this WT! Best, Nicolas
5110P hands down...
By: arolex : April 25th, 2009-09:56
I prefer the dial, and the over all vintage look of this piece. arolex Arthur.
Thanks, Arthur
By: amanico : April 25th, 2009-13:17
It's strange. When I saw that PP was on to release a new WT, I jumped on it. I saw it before, and I fell in love with the scissor hour hand. The dial of the 5130 was less impressive than on the 5110, but the bigger size, and this hour hand convinced me to...
5130
By: Denis Boulle : June 18th, 2013-02:05
I will Go With Patek Philippe 5130 External link deleted. AndrewD
5130
By: Le Monde Edmond : June 18th, 2013-03:03
For one reason only: The scissor hands. Its a reference to the first models of the worldtime from Patek. Both are great- and I think that the worldtime is a Icon from Patek and perhaps the complication which is among the most useful- especially if you tra...
More sophisticated than a Rolex GMT, certainly, but more useful, I am not sure.
By: amanico : June 18th, 2013-11:47
As, with the Rolex, you can cover all the timezones, in one gesture. Not that easy with the Patek, when it comes to summertime, which is not adopted by all the countries ( russia, for example, I think ). Best, Nicolas
Please ban Dr.Kol
By: EDJA : June 18th, 2013-04:52
Please ban Its out of the human rights to post his 5131
Banning would be too much
By: dr.kol : June 18th, 2013-06:00
but Ed, I can make you a very special favor: I'm in Lapland now and if I will be awake, I can take you a picture of the midnight sun. Together with my 5140P. Best, Kari
Not sure, Kari, not sure.
By: amanico : June 18th, 2013-11:50
The major problem of the 5130 or 31 is that the case got 2, 5 mm extra millimeters, but the size of the dial remains the same... Which creates a less harmonious view on the overall watch, I think. But this enamel dial is really something! Best, Nicolas.
5110 remains the best.
By: Grisar : June 21st, 2013-20:41
Among all the current options, 5110 remains the most harmonious and beautiful one for me. My strong preference is, however, the platin version with silvery blue central dial.
I can't disagree.
By: amanico : June 21st, 2013-22:29
One of the five moderns which will defintely stay in my collection... Best, Nicolas ...
You perfectly know my answer ;-)
By: dirost : January 18th, 2015-07:59
5110 P, of course, my friend ! Because of the dial, because of the case proportions, because all this makes its unique charm and elegance, because.... Best to you, Didier.
It's a tie for me
By: agyzace : November 25th, 2015-02:36
Although I tend to see the 5130p as the ultimate world timer due to a. size, b. scissor hands and c. dial\'s ability to bring light and various shades of blue, if given the chance to purchase one of them, I would spend a considerable amount of time before...
I know about the dimensions issue, Nicolas...
By: agyzace : December 3rd, 2015-10:28
...thanks exclusively to your posts, I have educated myself to these issues The 5110p is perfect; flawless. I just wonder whether the 5130p might stand the test of time better due to the case size. I think that\'s the only point that makes the choice betw...
For me, both have their charm
By: Miranda : December 3rd, 2015-06:49
the 37mm, has a more classic vintage charm, the 39mm is a more modern charm, both are devine Ideally I would like to add the 5110p to the 39mm..... ...
Interesting...
By: Ed Watches : December 3rd, 2015-15:13
This is a very interesting post, with even more interesting replies... I always thought the hour hand on the 5130 was greatly disliked by many, but am reading some genuine love for it here. Is there any technical reason for the shape of that hour hand or ...
+1. [nt]
By: amanico : December 5th, 2015-06:01
Have the 5130p..and looking for a 5110p
By: srvjrg : December 24th, 2015-20:37
I think the 5130p and the 5110p are different stories, each one a thing of beauty in its own way.. sorry because the photo is not the best, Blackberry Passport camera, the 5130P is not an easy model. Thanks, Jorge ...
5110p
By: hamish : December 24th, 2015-21:36
All day every day.