5002P cuts in very close for me. I would have to try it on, but agree that it is a truly beautiful watch. Quite a lot of agreement on the 5070s. The choice in the 5070s is taste, i agree. For me, I am not a big fan of the greyish dial, so that would rule out the rose gold. Likewise, I am not a fan of the yellow gold with black dial. When i say "not a fan", I would happily wear either of these 5070s....very happily...but if it was a choice of ultimate watch, then everything has to be perfect. It is interesting seeing how others view their ultimate watches. Its not about the cost...just the passion for the watch. The 5970P sits so well on a smaller wrist, despite the 40mm that it probably gets my vote for top slot. It was, to my mind, the star of the 2009s. Whether or not it is my all-time classic will depend on how many older watches I get to see. Being quite new to Patek, I am sure there are plenty more for me to fall for. At this point, 5970P.