Ares501 - Mr Green
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For me the love for the watch is above the fact if AP or A Porchet is on dial
Did I got it right from your post that
price is different if AP or A Porchet is written on "lion PP" if so
for me that's sort of price point and value for money implied directly by PP
Cheers
D
Hi All, Further to my 2017 July and follow-up posts on “The Dream” Henri Rousseau enamel series, various fortunate owners, PuristS seeking this 5089s and other PuristS have asked...
www.watchprosite.com www.watchprosite.com ...me questions on the enamel dials. Hence, I have communicated with Patek so that we can understand more about this series. Mr Jerome Pernici (Commercial Director) was very kind and responded full...
Thanks runie ! You should have taken...
the lion ! We would be having an enamel lion GTG now ! Cheers, Gordon
It is never to late to hunt for the...
lion, leopard, owl and/or bird ! My friend just got his Lion last week. There is hope ! Good luck if you decide to go for one or all !
Fascinating post Gordon and an even more fascinating watch! The Lion is an incredible horological work of art. Of all the beautiful handcrafted time only modern watches created
by Patek, the Lion is my absolute favorite. Best, patekova
Hi patekova, Glad to hear that you continue to ...
appreciate the Lion without the need to "hunt" it down. Hope you will visit Asia and see the Lion in the Lau zoo. LOL ! Cheers, Gordon
What a fantastic and interesting post!
Were there any differences from the two that you found?
I see, and yes, truly remarkable how these differences surface.
Thank you for kindly sending this. 👍
Thanks a lot Gordon --- I guess you already know I love Patek's rare handcrafts, but I don't really mind repeating myself here!:-)
The two lions are breathtaking... and I'm always in awe whenever I see that two "identical" pieces are in fact so unique!! The information you provided is also valuable --- these are all details that are extremely interesting to know, but hard to find any...
Hi Fab, you are most welcome and I am happy that you found the details interesting and valuable to you !
Your kind comments provide me with a "turbo boost" to continue to seek and share additional information on this topic which I am passionate about. Please repeat yourself and renew your vows for rare handcrafts as often as you wish ! It is music to my ears...
What a wonderful post to follow up Gordon.
Thanks for all the time you took and clarify with PP on the production and spirit went behind on creating this marvelous series of rare handcraft pieces. So informative and intriguing. Also interesting to know the method went into produce the watch is clo...
Hi Huei, You are most welcome and thank you for your kind words !
Both the Lion motif and 5131 maps IMO are difficult to produce, and I agree that the Lion is even more difficult especially with the 3D effects of the leaves below the Lion. If the Master enameller Ms. Porchet admitted that it was challenging, I cannot im...
Thank you so much for this beautiful post, Gordon.
I am absolutely blown away by your watch and have really enjoyed your previous posts about it. I never gave much thought to cloisonné before but you changed that whith “the dream”. Thank you for bringing more interesting details about this amazing watch. ...
Hi ChristianDK, You are most welcome and I am very happy that you have enjoyed the posts !
The photos really can only reveal a bit of how unique the dial really is. This Lion is one that you need to see it in the metal and go on a safari with so that you would be in "The Dream" ! LOL ! Cheers, Gordon
Illuminating Explanation
Gordon, thank you for sharing re: the enamelling techniques. Good to know that Anita is involved when the enamelling process of the dial is executed. Of course it would be better that "A Porchet" is engraved, but AP for me is sufficient enough. I also not...
Thanks avatarian74 for your kind comments ! Regarding your question about claims from other brands regarding Anita Porchet's involvement but without the AP or A Porchet signature, my thinking is that...
...the Master Enameler was involved previously in earlier pieces for various brands but did not leave her mark. As she became more famous, she evolved into a brand in her own right and brands want to show her involvement and she wanted to show her initial...
Very illuminating for me to learn about the enamel process.
Thank you for all this information. It gives me renewed interest in these art pieces. Your is the second closeup, based on a comparison of you previous posts. How many Rousseau Lion's were made?
Watches like this are incredibly rare..
They didn't release official figures on this 5089 as far as I know, but it's almost certainly a number between 3 and 10. (10 was the official number for each of the 5089 dials they made for the NYC exhibition, and it was considered quite high!) So in Gord...
Hi Fab, You are correct in that for the Rousseau series, there are...
6 pieces (within your range of 3 to 10) for each of the four animals. Hence, my GTG covered 33.333% of the Rousseau Lions in the wild ! Cheers, Gordon
Hi doublesix, Glad that the information was "illuminating" for you ! You are correct in that...
my Lion is the one in the second closeup. Overall, 6 Lions were made and 6 for each of the other animals. Hence, a total of 24 pieces for the Rousseau series with each one being "unique", just like the 5131s ! Cheers, Gordon
All are very nice!
It's just such a rare art that I'd be happy to own any piece. Most important is to find a piece with a motif that you love. Rousseau's lion is definitely a universally likable one! One day, this art will likely become extinct! Suzanne Rohr and Anita Porch...
Thanks Patrick for your kind comments ! IMO, I am not sure that the art will be extinct because...
Anita Porchet is training proteges. Perhaps one or more of them will become master(s) in the future, right ? Cheers, Gordon
Very true... BUT....
Anita Porchet knows several different enameling techniques. And there have been some pieces that have exhibited as many as five of the different enamel techniques in one single piece. Let's hope that one of the proteges can also master a combination of th...
Good luck Patrick with your hunt for an Anita Porchet enamel piece that you love ! Let’s hope that at least one of ...
her protégés can become an enameler master like her and Suzanne Rohr ! Cheers, Gordon
Amazing "identical" twins!!!
Great post with details of how the lions came to life!!! Being able to confirm these details is not an easy task! Well done! Left side of the twins is your, I believe. Up next on your collection radar, "A Porchet" enamel piece!! Wear in great health! Keit...
Thanks Keith ! I have...
forgotten whether the left or right is mine ! LOL ! The second close-up shot is mine. An "A Porchet" piece will definitely be good but it will cost me two arms and two legs. Hence, I will not be able to wear or hold the piece ! :-p Cheers, Gordon
For me the love for the watch is above the fact if AP or A Porchet is on dial
Did I got it right from your post that price is different if AP or A Porchet is written on "lion PP" if so for me that's sort of price point and value for money implied directly by PP Cheers D
Hi Mr Green, all 6 pieces for the Rousseau Lion and the 6 pieces for each of the Leopard, Owl and Bird all have...
only the AP signature. Other more complicated enamel pieces that combine numerous enamel techniques (combination of cloisonné, champleve, griselle, miniature painting and others) are done by Anita Porchet herself and as such cost more. Cheers, Gordon
Thanks for that very interesting and enlightening post!
It's great to see a face behind the incredible craft. Thanks to you, Anita Porchet now has her own groupie... and you are its undeniable leader!
Thanks for your kind comments ! I do feel that I am the Biggest fan of Anita Porchet in this Patek forum but based on the...
number of pieces I have, one only :-( , I definitely do not deserve to be the leader though ! I know for a fact that others have more of AP and/or A Porchet dials from Patek and other brands. Cheers, Gordon