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. . . and there's much to digest: 13 models, 6 movements including 3 that are new from the ground up.
As with all things AP, it's best not to rush to judgment. But I'll say this right now, the case and lug design are exceptional.
BTW, all models are 41mm diameter.
As they say, news at 11 . . .
M4
Screenshot from the video on Hodinkee.
So the new AP Code11.59 line is out
Introducing: CODE 11.59 By Audemars Piguet (VIDEO)
https:// www.hodinkee.com/articles/code-1159-audemars-piguet-introducing
And we have a new integrated column wheel chronograph at last
Maybe it will see it’s way to the RO line later
https:// www.hodinkee.com/articles/code-1159-audemars-piguet-introducing
And we have a new integrated column wheel chronograph at last
Maybe it will see it’s way to the RO line later
I just saw the CODE 11.59 release . . .
. . . and there's much to digest: 13 models, 6 movements including 3 that are new from the ground up.
As with all things AP, it's best not to rush to judgment. But I'll say this right now, the case and lug design are exceptional.
BTW, all models are 41mm diameter.
As they say, news at 11 . . .
M4
Movements and case top notch, rest absolutely garbage.
Seems like AP focused all their creativity in the case and had nothing in mind for the dials. Why are they considered as holy trinity again?
I am trying to understand
What all the fanfare in their teaser campaign was about. Why did their suppliers told them they were crazy? Why did they have to push the limits of watchmaking? What was all the struggle and the resulting 'Eureka!' moments for? I was hoping we would see something truly innovative...
+1. If this is pushing the limits of watchmaking then..
...AP should accept, like Panerai with the Luminor and Radiomir, the Royal Oak and RO Offshore is really their only offering of interest. Their dial design with the date at 4.30 is somewhat lacking against others high end brands in the price point.
The new chronograph movement with jumping minutes is really amazing
These watches are going to be very desired by athletes and celebs. Production is very limited initially. They will become a thing to have, and it will spread from there. I can imagine a steel version on a rubber strap that would be very appealing
Please do not get me wrong and judge from my nickname
But how the hell the chrono movement is amazing? I mean they say they're driven by complications and the first in-house chrono that came in 2019 (!) looks like some 70s chronograph. I love watchmaking before any brand and have huuugee respect for AP; that's why I'm disappointed.
If this watch as well goes along with hype, I'm done haha!
If this watch as well goes along with hype, I'm done haha!
In house instantaneously jumping minutes, column wheel chronograph
Ask yourself who else does that?
Is it really instant-jump? Appears not in video (see screenshots)
Screenshot from the video on Hodinkee.
From these screenshots..
..it looks like the minute counter is indeed progressing linearly. Not only it doesn't jump instantaneously, but not even semi-instantaneously a la Primero, Piguet, Valjoux 7750, etc.
Well, if true, that would be a real disappointment
The promotional materials suggest otherwise by saying it’s a jumping minute chronograph. Also, while I suspect that this line will be very popular with athletes and celebs (and that may generate sales) the market trend these days really favors steel sports watches, so I’m wondering if AP would not have been better off releasing this in steel, on a rubber strap or bracelet etc.
Sadly it is sweep minutes, not jump
They had 20 years to respond to the Datograph and clearly decided it wasn't worth it.
Do we view this as an answer to the Dato?
In construction and finishing I see it much more as an answer to the Rolex 4130, JLC 751, and as a way to replace the FP 1185 with something they can really call “in-house.”
What do you think?
What do you think?
Perhaps more details of the new calibers will emerge in due time..
But for now the only reason the CEO mentions for creating the new chrono caliber is because people wouldn't stop bugging him for it. So yes, now they can put this new movement in their chrono models and say 100% in-house.
Talking about instant date jump
AP talks about instantaneous date jump and not counter hands
Very disappointing
The only thing of significance here for me is the introduction of the new chronograph movement, which is LONG overdue. Unfortunately I think the new watch design is unattractive and the dial gives it the look of a cheap fashion watch.
I'm a big fan of AP and wish them well with the new lineup, but I fear they're going to have a major flop on their hands.
I'm a big fan of AP and wish them well with the new lineup, but I fear they're going to have a major flop on their hands.
A failure of trying to create a new icon and escape from Royal Oak
The dial design is very boring. Sorry AP.
Huge disappointment ...
I even thought it was a fake news at the beginning....
It looks like a Daniel wellington++...
Anyway hopefully others will be more tolerant than me on their new line.
For me I’ll stick to the RO
Kev
It looks like a Daniel wellington++...
Anyway hopefully others will be more tolerant than me on their new line.
For me I’ll stick to the RO
Kev
Good job they are keeping the production numbers low for the first year
If they are lucky, that will be all they will sell. They should stick to what they do best; RO.
Saddens me to say this but I think the Holy Trinity should now be officially changed to PP, VC & ALS [nt]
No message body
There's a lot to take in, and I agree sometimes it takes a few days or weeks or longer for us to really see and appreciate something new like this.
From what I've read, and seen in picture and video, there's much to like. I think the case is interesting, and appealing. The work/thought on the crystal is a nice addition. They have, whether they are good enough or not, introduced a bunch of new calibres and answered everyone's call for an inhouse integrated chronograph. Overall, this was a huge undertaking and let's appreciate in the first instance that they have come to the market with something fresh.
BUT it seems the dial design might have let the whole line down. And for me dials sell watches. Dials sell watches (I'm repeating for emphasis). The dials are not awful, they are just really uninspiring.
Jay, your comments are spot on for me.
I expect the negativity here, that is what many new members bring. We are far from the old days. We can all have our own opinions, but to call something like this "garbage", it is laughable. "Consider the source", one of my Dad's favorite expressions.
Back to the watches, I could have written your reply myself. The chrono dial especially, I am not inspired with the dial. But I see lots of opportunity for this collection, and look forward to seeing them up close.
Back to the watches, I could have written your reply myself. The chrono dial especially, I am not inspired with the dial. But I see lots of opportunity for this collection, and look forward to seeing them up close.
Well said.
Reactions to releases like this make me want to turn my phone off for the duration of SIHH. It’s so easy for people to be negative on social media about a release like this with their own objective taste in watches, not to mention the majority of those bashing AP don’t own one anyways. Like I said before this release was going to be very polarizing but a huge kudos to AP for going out on a limb and releasing a line as ambitious as this one is. The dials aren’t fantastic but the movements sure as hell are. One can only hope AP is taking note of everyone bashing them online so that when they put that beautiful new column wheel chrono in a royal oak, they can turn them away for an allocation! All that being said I’m excited to see these in the metal.
I credit AP, or any company, for pushing forward and trying something new.
They state it themselves, they want to dare and not stand still. I applaud the moxie.
How easy would it be for this brand to only sell Royal Oaks and Royal Oak Offshores? This new collection excites me. Again, I see oodles of opportunity. And AP does pay attention and take notes, you just might see a reflection of that in a few more days
How easy would it be for this brand to only sell Royal Oaks and Royal Oak Offshores? This new collection excites me. Again, I see oodles of opportunity. And AP does pay attention and take notes, you just might see a reflection of that in a few more days