Dr No
[Moderator Omega - Wristscan]
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Dial script is spot-on . . .
. . . and the crown and hands are correct. The problem is there isn't any aging evident - in other words, it's too good to be true.
There are some exceptionally adept re-dials currently, unlike the old days when they were easy to spot. Since black is the usual route for refinishers as it covers up a multitude of errors, and the case appears to be refinished (albeit nicely), I'm going to provisionally lean against it being original. But I am uncomfortable saying that; there's nothing obviously wrong with it.
It's worth investigating with the seller to see if there's any supporting evidence of its originality. Often, refinished dials are painted on the back; asking for a photo of the back of the dial would be helpful.
Cautiously,
Art
Hello guys,...
Tomorrow is finally Friday! While waiting for tomorrow, I saw this online.... What do you think about this one's dial? It looks sooo good to be truly legit tho I admit, but I can't help drooling over this one.... Someone please save me.... ......please pa...
I think about a redial too but a damn good one but then it is your money and the decision is yours. But if in doubt, don't buy it.
Like De Niro says:"When there is a doubt, then there is no doubt."
I see.... Seems that the hands were replaced...
And not sure about the lume tho.... Cuz it's stated no "T" on the bottom to indicate that it's not having lume on the dial (eventhough I'm not sure it's original tho haha)
tritium was introduced back in 1966 and this one is a 1953-1954 manufactured watch so that is normal that there is no T written on the dial
There should have been radium lume but it is gone, so perhaps it is the work of swiss time services or omega bienne who refinished it. But who ever did it, did a brilliant job
If you will buy it for yourself...
I.e. don't intend to sell it and don't care about the resale value, then go where your heart takes you. It is certainly very nice looking
Well... Still... I'm considering the originality as well tho...
That's why... I'm confused
Redial??
Looks very nice, even if a redial. If you were to buy it would anyone on the street even know its a redial, most likely never notice, it would take a true "watch person" to notice and odds are slim and none they would notice. Again, nice watch!!
One really need their loupe to see one
Cuz it's just too dang nice to be redial as well.... And too good to be legit for its age....
Now and then a piece is really well-cared for.
I'm no expert, and certainly not with Omega, but maybe it's original. Look how clean the movement appears. I have an 1899 Lange PW which looks like it was made a year ago-and it's confirmed all original.
That's the point where I was confused...
If the dial was that good but the movement got tons of this and that, I could straight away leave it... But this one was equipped with a very clean movement as well.... So... Thanks man for your input... Still 3 days away but I'll take your opinion in min...
Dial script is spot-on . . .
. . . and the crown and hands are correct. The problem is there isn't any aging evident - in other words, it's too good to be true. There are some exceptionally adept re-dials currently, unlike the old days when they were easy to spot. Since black is the ...
Perhaps it's possible that it was serviced back in the Omega Bienne
If that's so, then possibly that's the case because I've seen watches sent to be serviced there and comes up looks like new (change/refurbish the dial, the hands were kept in place, restored movement, manufacturer standard polishing, and new caseback gask...
The dial's an enigma, Jeviar - while it's possible for one . . .
. . . to survive the decades (and it's going on six for this specimen) in pristine condition, it's not likely. A service dial would be a reasonable explanation, but I doubt Omega has them for this reference. Not impossible, but not likely, either. How muc...
At that price, it's worth a go. Limit your exposure . . .
. . . to $500 at first, and keep us updated. Art
Sorry, Jeviar, I was away from home . . .
. . . and just got back to my computer. If it's over $600 now, my advice would be to drop out. In the event it's a refinished dial, you'd be likely to recover that honestly (i e, by acknowledging it's refinished) at that price level. Above that, and you'l...
Sorry for the late reply, Art,
Yeah, if it's above 600 then I can't partake on the bidding because imo it's above my budget for a simple three hand watch, but my friend said that he'll partake in it if it indeed ended around those numbers. And rest assured, one friend of mine that have...
If and when your buddy gets it, ask him for a photo . . .
. . . of the back of the dial. That could help settle the matter. I could find no technical issue with the dial (or hands or crown) - it was simply the unlikelihood of it surviving six decades without a hint of aging that unnerved me. Best, Art
No problem!
If it happens to be the real deal, how much is the value of it? I wonder I should avoid being overpay it
I'd say a transaction on eBay . . .
. . . would fetch ~ $1000; on our Collectors Market, more like $1200+. Art
I see...
The auction has ended, the results is around 2000 US$ The competition is very high I can't handle it....
That's more than I would've expected. Original black dials . . .
. . . have a mystique that commands a premium, but this auction broke new territory for a relatively common reference. Most interesting, and thanks for letting us know, Jeviar. Art
Assuming it is actually completely original, then . . .
. . . $2K would represent the top of the market. It's not a terribly collectible reference, so the eBay crowd would likely top out at $1K. Between collectors, I can see $1.2 - $1.5K. When an item like this goes over the top, it's most likely by a person n...
Thank you soooooo much for your deep insight!
It's true about what you said, for that amount I'll start looking for an omega marine (saw some in considerable condition, dang I missed the opportunity) or a very nice gold constellation, or a seamaster with rotating bezel(saw some around the same price)...
Japanese collectors have a reputation for being discriminating, Jev. I was . . .
. . . really torn about making the call on that dial, especially since it's sourced from Japan, where the good stuff often ends up. Little wonder it went for such a high price - black dials with rose gold furniture are aesthetically compelling. As for cry...
If you decide to not make an offer on it
I'd be grateful for a link tontut auction as I just might make one. I've been looking for something like that and wouldn't care, if it necessarily wasn't 100% kosher... I just like the look of it.